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    Default JVR/Carlson for Skinner/Shattenkirk: Rep Awarded

    I've been offered a new Skinner deal. I know some value Carlson very highly, I consider Shattenkirk very close to him. Dobber has him ranked 1 spot behind Carlson in the D rankings as well. I see him being better in the shortterm and my D is fine in the longterm.

    I need center help, am actively after Skinner. I can see him getting 40 soon.

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    I think this deal makes sense for you. I don't think the difference between Carlson/Shattz is that much and I think you get a slight upgrade from JVR to Skinner. I really like JVR though and that's my only hesitation.
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    i really like this deal for you carlson and shatty are pretty close and those 2 could go either way. its kind of a toss up at this point. i think JVR and skinner are pretty close but i give the edge to skinner in this one
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    JVR and Skinner are a wash and Shatty has more pure offense than Carlsson, IMO so if these deal helps your positional requirements, go for it.

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    Thanks guys, I pulled the trigger. My already crap team +/- just got way worse, but I really like Skinner and I think Carlson/Shattenkirk are a wash in the next few years. I turned down Skinner/Grabner for JVR/Landeskog but I find this deal is a bit safer. Appreciate the help!
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    W: Kucherov, Panarin, Gaudreau, Huberdeau, Wilson, Hall, Keller, Kubalik, Toffoli, Hathaway
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    I would take Skinner and Shattenkirk here.
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    So ironic. Jeff Angus says I should have taken the Grabner deal, everyone here told me not to. Everyone here is on board the Skinner deal, Dobber calls it borderline horrible because outside offensive stats I plummeted. I don't know what Dobber's talking about. I upgrade G/A/PPP/SOG/GWG, SHP/PIM are basically a wash with these 2 sides. Only +/- gets damaged.
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    Like I said before.
    I would have taken JVR over any of them.
    He was taken 2nd overall for a reason and I think he'll have better peripheral stats than skinner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garethbush View Post
    Thanks guys, I pulled the trigger. My already crap team +/- just got way worse, but I really like Skinner and I think Carlson/Shattenkirk are a wash in the next few years. I turned down Skinner/Grabner for JVR/Landeskog but I find this deal is a bit safer. Appreciate the help!
    There we go. Reading your first post and wondering why you already own Skinner/ Shattenkirk in your sig.
    Long term the jury may be out on this deal but it is very close. I think your team got better for the here and now so good choice.

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