Top 40 Players Rankings

[rougie]

if its a 2 year window I wouldnt have lidstrom on the list. also doughty and bobby ryan way too low. Bryzgalov? Price? Just a couple things that caught my eye

[horrorfan]

Until you decide yourself on what your criteria and categories are going to be for a list like this, the list is just going to be FUBAR.

This point is crucial Sportsfan.

Before you make any more adjustments to your list, first thing you need to do is answer this question:

Specifically, who is this list intended for?

This is the first question because knowing your intended audience is most important, as you can cater your list to their needs. If you don't know your audience, how are you expected to have a good ranking?

You mentioned a few categories, but (as b0ndon asked) were they used to create this list or only mentioned after prompting?

What type of league? Even if you know the categories, the list could change depending on whether it's a H2H, roto or even category points (that is, different values for different categories).

Even with answering these questions, you may not be able to fine tune your list because it could depend on the depth of league. 10 teams? 12 teams? 20 teams? How many starting slots? Are forward positions split?

For example, in a 20 team league with two starting goalies, more of them would be ranked much higher. In a 10 team league with one goalie slot, you could argue that none of them (perhaps one or two) should be ranked in the top 40.

You can see where I'm going with it. It's a lot to ask but I'm being constructive to better help you. You are asking us to criticize your list, but with little information, you'll get varying opinions that may or may not be helpful or relevant.

All that being said, it's your list, but hopefully at least some of what I and others have said will steer you in the right direction.

[sportsfan23454]

Shall I give like the points system?

[bondon]

Shall I give like the points system?

My suggestion man is to start from square one.

Establish a setup. How many at each position? Are you going to go with the standard Yahoo setup (I think 2C, 2LW, 2RW, 1UTIL, 4D, 2G)? Or are you going to base this list around your league's setup (whatever that may be).

Then establish categories. Again, standard Yahoo? (G, A, +/-, PPP, PIM, SOG, W, SV%, GAA, SO)? Or are you going with an extended list of categories as well (SHP, HIT,BS, etc.)

THEN you begin compiling a list, weighing each players relative worth given the setup and categories.

[sportsfan23454]

Ok how's this...

Two year league

25 for a point
10 for a plus 1
-10 for a minus 1
2 for a shot on goal
2 for a hit
3 for a penalty

Goalies
-15 for a GA
2 for a save
50 for a win
Extra 50 for a shutout

Is that good?

[sportsfan23454]

Actually you know what. Screw that. Everything standard yahoo.

[sportsfan23454]

Everybody is probably familiar with standard yahoo so just do it like that. It will make it a lot easier.

[sportsfan23454]

Updated list
1. Sidney Crosby
2. Steven Stamkos
3. Alex Ovechkin
4. Daniel Sedin
5. Henrik Sedin
6. Evgeni Malkin
7. Corey Perry
8. Pavel Datsyuk
9. Tim Thomas
10. Martin St. Louis
11. Henrik Zetterberg
12. Anze Kopitar
13. Patrick Kane
14. Brad Richards
15. Mike Green
16. Zach Parise
17. Jonathan Toews
18. Claude Giroux
19. Rick Nash
20. Ilya Kovalchuk
21. Nicklas Backstrom
22. Alexander Semin
23. Keith Yandle
24. Ryan Kesler
25. Carey Price
26. Jeff Carter
27. Lubomir Visnovsky
28. Ryan Getzlaf
29. Jarome Iginla
30. Marian Gaborik
31. Dustin Byfuglien
32. Pekka Rinne
33. Eric Staal
34. Mike Richards
35. Zdeno Chara
36. Jason Spezza
37. Roberto Luongo
38. Patrick Sharp
39. Ilya Bryzgalov
40. Kris Letang
41. Christian Ehrhoff
42. Dany Heatley
43. Henrik Lundqvist
44. Bobby Ryan
45. Nicklas Lidstrom
46. John Tavares
47. Ryan Miller
48. Dan Boyle
49. Joe Thornton
50. Jonathan Quick
51. Loui Erikkson

It's now a top 50 list.

[sportsfan23454]

Anyone wanna help me make the list better?

[Aaron27]

1 Alexander Ovechkin
2 Sidney Crosby
3 Evgeni Malkin
4 Steven Stamkos
5 Daniel Sedin
6 Nicklas Backstrom
7 Henrik Sedin
8 Ryan Getzlaf
9 Corey Perry
10 Anze Kopitar
11 Patrick Kane
12 Zach Parise
13 Eric Staal
14 Henrik Lundqvist
15 Carey Price
16 Brad Richards
17 Ilya Kovalchuk
18 Jeff Carter
19 Roberto Luongo
20 Pavel Datsyuk
21 Jonathan Toews
22 Henrik Zetterberg
23 John Tavares
24 Marc-Andre Fleury
25 Mike Green
26 Martin St. Louis
27 Claude Giroux
28 Bobby Ryan
29 Alexander Semin
30 Ryan Miller
31 Rick Nash
32 Drew Doughty
33 Ilja Bryzgalov
34 Ryan Kesler
35 Keith Yandle
36 Pekka Rinne
37 Kris Letang
38 Matthew Duchene
39 Dany Heatley
40 Joe Thornton
41 Mikko Koivu
42 Mike Richards
43 Jason Spezza
44 Dustin Byfuglien
45 Vincent Lecavalier
46 Shea Weber
47 Duncan Keith
48 Marian Gaborik
49 Loui Eriksson
50 Zdeno Chara

[TwoPuckCanuck]

Based on your stats (and associated weights) given and last years scoring, the top 40 would be as follows:

1 Alexander Ovechkin
2 Daniel Sedin
3 Corey Perry
4 Dustin Byfuglien
5 Martin St. Louis
6 Zdeno Chara
7 Lubomir Visnovsky
8 Kristopher Letang
9 Shea Weber
10 Jarome Iginla
11 Steven Stamkos
12 Bobby Ryan
13 Keith Yandle
14 David Backes
15 Henrik Sedin
16 Christian Ehrhoff
17 Henrik Zetterberg
18 Jeff Carter
19 Nicklas Lidstrom
20 Dustin Brown
21 Ryan Kesler
22 Claude Giroux
23 Brent Seabrook
24 Milan Lucic
25 Alex Goligoski
26 Jonathan Toews
27 Dan Boyle
28 Patrick Marleau
29 Daniel Briere
30 Teemu Selanne
31 Anze Kopitar
32 Andrej Meszaros
33 Rick Nash
34 Patrick Sharp
35 Ryan Getzlaf
36 Drew Doughty
37 Brent Burns
38 Joe Pavelski
39 Tuomo Ruutu
40 Eric Staal

Now obviously this doesn't include injured players that should be there (Malkin, Crosby, to name a few) or goalies, but gives you an idea of what players are valuable with those parameters. Example: Dustin Brown at 20th. Thats cause of your peripheral stats, such as hits, PIMs, SOG and +/-. There is a lot to it when you start counting those.

If you want I can e-mail you the excel sheet with my "fantasy calculator" that generated this.