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    Got Seider earlier this year hoping for a rebound. Picked up Sanderson on waivers while Dealing with Heiskanen and Dunn's injuries. They are both due back soon.

    Seider has been ice cold and no PPP. He's not even on top PP. Sanderson seems to bounce from 1st to 2nd PP but is better lately.

    My gut says cut seider but looking for opinions.
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    Default Re: Moritz Seider or Jake Sanderso

    Seider is the choice here. He shown more in his career than Sanderson has.

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    Seider is undoubtedly the better player. That said, in your format, I think I'd go Sanderson. Right now, a lot of Seider's value comes from hits and blocks, which your league doesn't count. Sanderson isn't without risk, the Sens have so many offensive defensemen that any sort of cold streak will surely cost him PP1. But if you go Seider then you're gambling that the Red Wings will eventually hand him the keys to PP1 and stop bringing in power play specialists that push him down the depth chart.
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    I hedge towards Sanderson.
    I think OTT is toast for playoffs this year - and I think they need to soak assets from re-trading Chychrun.
    That puts Sanderson/Chabot at forefront of running that OTT PP.

    Seider has Ghost blocking him.
    But Ghost is UFA - and DET needs to open space for Edvinsson in 24/25 and Wallinder in 25/26.
    I'm not sure they re-sign Ghost - which gives Seider his PP time back.

    So I'll go with Sanderson in points-centric leagues.
    But still Seider long-term in multi-cat with hit/blk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    But Ghost is UFA - and DET needs to open space for Edvinsson in 24/25 and Wallinder in 25/26.
    I'm not sure they re-sign Ghost - which gives Seider his PP time back.
    Contradicting what I just said in my last post...

    The Red Wings currently occupy the 8th playoff spot in the East. If they fall out of contention in the next month, I'm sure they'll look to unload Ghost (I've already been seeing speculation that they might try to flip Kane). That would at least give Seider PP1 in the short term.
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    DET should...
    For as many points as Ghost has on the PP (20... 2g, 18a).

    He's also the team leader in...
    https://www.espn.com/nhl/team/stats/...sMinus/dir/asc


    It's actually an absolutely crazy bonkers stat.
    Detroit's Defensemen... sorted by +/-.

    +11 Olli Maatta
    +6 Justin Holl

    +3 Ben Chiarot
    +2 Jeff Petry
    +1 Jake Walman
    +0 Moritz Seider
    ....
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    ....
    ....
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    -20 Shayne Gostisbehere (-11 in 15gp of December... -6 in 10gp of January... thus far.)


    I'm not sure I've ever seen anything like this...

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    Ghost was dropped in my league last week. I decided not to pick him up because I didn't want a sixth defenseman, now I feel even better about that decision.
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    Default Re: Moritz Seider or Jake Sanderso

    i think Seider is must own in true multiact formats but in your set up i prefer Sandarson, i personally think he will have a better offensive career and your stats are mostly based on offense.
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    points only Sanderson
    multi-cat Seider.
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    Thank you everyone for the info

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    Seider likely could put up much better offensive numbers, but his deployment is stifling him. Usually though true talents find a way to force the issue, and that's what I believe will happen with Seider. In other words, he could take time to thrive, ala Chris Pronger or Victor Hedman. But Sanderson looks to be very offensively gifted, and might have the makings of being a top tier offensive d-man. Given that, and your format, Seider probably is not worth the wait.
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