Originally Posted by
RizzeeDizzee
I'll try to be diplomatic, because I'm an ambassador of the site, but yikes that's a lot of text and a lot of vitriol.
Also, your only retort to my objective evidence about tip in goals is that Joe Pavelski gets a lot of them? Who's got selective/flimsy data now?
As for your IPP list, how many of them haven't had 70%+ IPPs in the majority of their seasons? Again - I said that IPP is indicative of a player's trajectory as much as his current results.
Right now, the top 30 scorers include 16 whose IPP is lower than 70%. In some cases, they're up there because of significant ice time and/or PP scoring. Of the 16 whose IPPs are currently lower than 70%:
-Leon Draisaitl - over 70% basically his entire career and barely below it now
-Erik Karlsson - A defenseman, and I said this pertained to forwards only
-Mikko Rantanen - 67.2% to 73.1% in four of his past five seasons, and bound to have a lower IPP due to playing with a points magnet like MacKinnon
-Auston Matthews - Above 70% every previous season
-Roope Hintz - Above 70% in two of his prior three seasons
-Nathan MacKinnon - Above 70% in each of his prior five seasons
-RNH - He's scoring a lot because his team is scoring a lot
-EP - I maintain he's not a star, but I'll give you this one
-Steven Stamkos - above 70% in all but one of his previous seasons
-Zach Hyman - same as RNH
-Mika Zibanejad - up and down on IPP, but above 70% twice, although not for most seasons, so I'll give you this one too
-Rasmus Dahlin - A defenseman
-Jeff Skinner - several 70%+ seasons in his early career
-William Nylander - 70% or above in two of his past four seasons
-Josh Morrissey - A defenseman
-Brady Tkachuk - I'll give you him too
Congrats on disproving your point more than proving it.