He wants a D and I need a starter

[rempel1]

He has Krug and Monahan that I'd like to try to buy low on.
His goalies are Jones, Talbot, Bobrovsky, & Dubnyk.

I am thinking of offering
my (Niskanen or Goligoski), Mikael Granlund, Ward
for
his Krug, Dubnyk.

Not enough? Any ideas?
Points only Team in sig.

[Axeman33]

If I was the other GM, that offer wouldn't interest me in the slightest. It seems like you are trying to dump your old farts on him.

I find it hard to buy low in keeper leagues because any GM with a grain of salt isn't going to move out someone like Sean Monahan because he's off to a slow start. You wait those guys out to turn it around.

You can make the offer to him, but I would be shocked if he accepted. If it was me, I am not sure I would even counter offer if you were to think this was a good deal. Not to mention, you state he wants D so why would he move Krug?

I honestly can't see the other GM wanting ANY of the guys you are tempted to propose in your offer. You cant ask for his best players (and I am sure in his eyes, guys like Monahan and Dubnyk are a couple of better players) and offer most of your worst.

[The Bottlenecker]

If I was the other GM, that offer wouldn't interest me in the slightest. It seems like you are trying to dump your old farts on him.

I find it hard to buy low in keeper leagues because any GM with a grain of salt isn't going to move out someone like Sean Monahan because he's off to a slow start. You wait those guys out to turn it around.

You can make the offer to him, but I would be shocked if he accepted. If it was me, I am not sure I would even counter offer if you were to think this was a good deal. Not to mention, you state he wants D so why would he move Krug?

I honestly can't see the other GM wanting ANY of the guys you are tempted to propose in your offer. You cant ask for his best players (and I am sure in his eyes, guys like Monahan and Dubnyk are a couple of better players) and offer most of your worst.

I've done this before, and on occasion it has worked, especially if the GM feels he is in the hunt for the title and his slumping star is holding him back. However, it is also a way to have GMs in your league not want to trade with you as they begin to suspect/feel that everything you offer is lopsided in your favour. I've tried to be more fair with the offers I make now, and the results are twofold: my team is doing better, and more GMs are willing to trade with me.

[horrorfan]

I echo the comments above. He would have no interest in that deal. He'd be giving up the three best players, by far.

My suggestion to you - keep it simple and focused. Looking at your subject (he needs a D and you need a starter), perhaps an offer around Gostisbehere for Jones. His other goalies are playing well so perhaps he's willing to part with a slumping Jones, and Gostisbehere is the shiny new D that a lot of GMs are targeting these days. If you want to buy low, Jones would be my target. Perhaps you'll need to make it a 2-for-2, but I emphasize keeping the offer focused, looking at his needs as well as trying to fill yours.

[Axeman33]

Thats certainly better but again, not sure he'll bite. Again, you say he wants D so why would he move out Krug if that's the case. If it was me, I'd probably want that type of return for Dubnyk alone, let alone adding in Krug.

By the way, what Granlund?

[horrorfan]

Thanks guys.
I kind of figured it wasn't enough to start talks. Glad I asked.

What about this,
my (Niskanen or Goligoski), Granlund, Ward
for
his Krug, Dubnyk

I have some extra picks I could add too

Why would he give up his best goalie for depth? If I were that owner I would reject instantly. Dubynk's value is sky high no combination of those players would come close to getting Dubnyk IMO.

For a suggestion, see my other post.

[GSD]

Don't waste your time. No one I know would give up Dubnyk for what your offering. Krug would be a good target IMO.