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    Default Another Kessel Trade Thread

    I feel that I am in win now mode, I have one of the stronger teams over the past couple years but havent been able to dethrone the champ (2nd last year).

    I have been actively trying to get Kessel since he was traded to Pittsburgh but couldn't pull off an offseason trade. Now that the draft is over, I am trying again.

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    G,A,+/-,PPP,PIM,SOG,GWG
    W, Svs, GAA, Shutouts


    Here is what I have on my roster:
    Crosby
    Giroux CR
    Getzlaf
    Kopitar
    Johansen CR
    Kucherov
    Nichushkin
    Sharp CL
    Hudler LCR
    Lucic
    Hartnell
    Plekanec
    Iginla
    Ennis CL
    Sam Bennett
    Dano

    Letang
    Hedman
    Josi
    Markov
    Muzzin

    Fleury
    Dubnyk
    Elliott
    Niemi

    His roster:
    Toews
    Zetterberg CL
    Kessel
    Backstrom (WAS)
    Landeskog
    Forsberg CR
    Vanek LR
    Lehtera
    Hagelin
    Kesler CR
    Stone
    Drouin
    Palat
    Zibenajad CR

    Suter
    Vatanen
    Pietrangelo
    Fowler
    Boychuk

    Halak
    Crawford
    Mrazek
    Howard
    John Gibson

    History:
    In those early attempts over the offseason, a) Getz + RyJo for Kessel and b) Kopitar + Ryjo for Kessel offers were both turned down as he didn't want to lose another keeper to the draft but was open to talking post draft.


    I guess I'm asking if it is worth doing if the cost becomes:
    a) Kopitar + Getzlaf...
    b) Kopitar + RyJo...
    c) Getzlaf + Ryjo...

    ...then what kind of "+" can I ask for with Kessel? or is losing 2 top assets like that too steep a price to pay?


    Feel free to dissect both teams' assets and see if theres something else I should be looking at trade wise?

    Thx as always Dobber community!

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    Default Re: Another Kessel Trade Thread

    If I'm the Kessel owner - START with Giroux.
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    Goalies: W=3, OTL=1, SO= +2, SV= .10


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    Seider, Edvinsson, Jiricek, Korchinski, Mintyukov, Ceulemans, Hutson
    (G): Shesterkin, Demko, Vejmelka

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    Default Re: Another Kessel Trade Thread

    I would try Kucherov + one of Bennett or Dano for Kessel. Not sure he will do that, but seems to be a fair offer and will give you a better chance to win.

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    In my opinion, Getzlaf/Kopitar+Johansen is an over payment. Don't set your team back just to get one player. Kessel will have some big years, but so will Johansen and Getzlaf is still a supreme playmaker on arguably the best team in the league. Points in vs points out would be lopsided in the Kessel owner's favour.

    I just got Kessel for Tyler Johnson - straight across. If you can make a deal like that, or one player+picks then make it happen. Otherwise, i'd hold tight.
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    Default Re: Another Kessel Trade Thread

    Those seem like overpayments to me, I get it if it is pre-keeper selection and you want to upgrade spots (although Kessel and Getz are pretty close as it is with your cats) but post-draft the 2nd part of that package should be smaller
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_Sakic19 View Post

    I guess I'm asking if it is worth doing if the cost becomes:
    a) Kopitar + Getzlaf...
    b) Kopitar + RyJo...
    c) Getzlaf + Ryjo...

    ...then what kind of "+" can I ask for with Kessel? or is losing 2 top assets like that too steep a price to pay?

    Do not give up any combination of these without getting a solid + in return. Now you ask what a solid + would be in return... I would suggest somewhere in the Lehtera, Kesler range.
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