Id rank these guys
Faulk
Schultz
Vatanen
Josi
Schultz behind faulk only because of his team really hurts his +/-, both these guys play big minutes and on PPP. I think Schultz has more potential for bigger upside though s far as points
Justin Shultz
Justin Faulk
Sami Vatanen
Roman Josi
I will have 3 keeper defensemen and I think Josi is prolly the bottom of the barrel here in terms of upside. Will eventually have to trade one and I think Shultz, Faulk and Vatanen all have considerable upside as point producing Dmen. Maybe I am too optimistic but I see both Shultz and Vatenen as being consistant 50 plus point dmen in a couple years, while Faulk could be a 40-50 guy. Any thoughts or impressions would be helpful. I am trying to get 3 dmen all around 20-23 that can grow with the rest of my team. I'm hoping 3 of these 4 can be those guys.
REIGNING CHAMPION
15 Team Limited Keeper League (18 years)
32 Roster Spots, Protect 17,<41 games played;auto-protected
12 Forwards, 6 Defensemen, 2 Goalies
MY TEAM (4 years)
Forwards: Backstrom,Ovechkin,Kuznetsov,Forsberg,Tavares, Barkov,Huberdeau,Stamkos,Hall,J.Hockey,Dadonov,Carter,Perry,Kesler,Maroon
Defense: Karlsson,Hedman,OEL,Klingberg,Krug,Byfuglien,Keith,Seabrook
Goalies: Bobrovsky,Vasilevsky
Prospects: Bokk,Hayton,Dobson,Blackwood,Comrie,Hogberg
Scoring: G: 2 A: 1 +/-: 0.5 PIM: 0.2 W: 4 L: -1 SO:5 OTL: 1
Id rank these guys
Faulk
Schultz
Vatanen
Josi
Schultz behind faulk only because of his team really hurts his +/-, both these guys play big minutes and on PPP. I think Schultz has more potential for bigger upside though s far as points
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Second Year Keeper
H2H League, 14 teams, keep 4
C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, BEN, BEN, BEN, BEN, G, G
Cats: G, A, +/-, SOG, PIMS, PPP, HITS
G Cats: W, GAA, SAV%, SH
C: Evgeni Malkin (RW), Henrik Sedin, Brayden Schenn (LW)
LW: Evander Kane, Steve Downie (RW)
RW: James Neal (LW), Radim Vrbata, B. Gallagher, Patric Hornqvist
D: Phaneuf, Vatanen, Stralman, Seidenberg
G: Kari Lehtonen, James Reimer, C.Johnson, Stalock (IR)
Longterm I'd rank them
Schultz
Faulk
Vatanen
Josi
Sems like Schultz is the overwhelming choice for #1.
I'd like to get 3 young dmen the caliber of Justin Schultz, which I don't even think is possible.
Assuming PK Subban, Karleson, Peitrangelo and Doughty are off the board, whom should I target?
Preferably between the ages of 20-23
REIGNING CHAMPION
15 Team Limited Keeper League (18 years)
32 Roster Spots, Protect 17,<41 games played;auto-protected
12 Forwards, 6 Defensemen, 2 Goalies
MY TEAM (4 years)
Forwards: Backstrom,Ovechkin,Kuznetsov,Forsberg,Tavares, Barkov,Huberdeau,Stamkos,Hall,J.Hockey,Dadonov,Carter,Perry,Kesler,Maroon
Defense: Karlsson,Hedman,OEL,Klingberg,Krug,Byfuglien,Keith,Seabrook
Goalies: Bobrovsky,Vasilevsky
Prospects: Bokk,Hayton,Dobson,Blackwood,Comrie,Hogberg
Scoring: G: 2 A: 1 +/-: 0.5 PIM: 0.2 W: 4 L: -1 SO:5 OTL: 1
I think it's
Schultz
Faulk
Vatanen
Josi
Josi is probably the safer option, but if he has had 4 concussions or whatever has been reported then he's a risk. Vatanen has the higher upside.
I would say Ekman-Larsson is a good option for a guy 23 or younger.
Straight Points keeper league. Keep 5 Forwards,3 defence,1 goalie.
F: Nicklas Backstrom, Joe Thornton, Henrik Zetterberg, Zach Parise, Logan Couture
D: Erik Karlsson, Alex Pietrangelo, Oliver Ekman-Larsson
G: Sergei Bobrovsky
Thanks for the advice. OEL is a guy I was looking that. Unfortunately the owner that has him currently is a notoriously difficult owner to deal with and always wants to win a trade ridiculously. Having said that I have had luck with him before in getting a deal I found to be fair done and will try again.
Besides OEL, would there be another option around the ages of 20-23?
Schultz
OEL
are definatly what i would like to do, just not sure if I have a third already within my roster with 1 of Vatanen, Faulk or Josi.
REIGNING CHAMPION
15 Team Limited Keeper League (18 years)
32 Roster Spots, Protect 17,<41 games played;auto-protected
12 Forwards, 6 Defensemen, 2 Goalies
MY TEAM (4 years)
Forwards: Backstrom,Ovechkin,Kuznetsov,Forsberg,Tavares, Barkov,Huberdeau,Stamkos,Hall,J.Hockey,Dadonov,Carter,Perry,Kesler,Maroon
Defense: Karlsson,Hedman,OEL,Klingberg,Krug,Byfuglien,Keith,Seabrook
Goalies: Bobrovsky,Vasilevsky
Prospects: Bokk,Hayton,Dobson,Blackwood,Comrie,Hogberg
Scoring: G: 2 A: 1 +/-: 0.5 PIM: 0.2 W: 4 L: -1 SO:5 OTL: 1
My ranking on the 4 you specified would be:
1. Justin Schultz (23)
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2. Justin Faulk (21)
3. Sami Vatanen (22)
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4. Roman Josi (23)
Schultz is among the best of the young crop. But there are others I would covet in a Keeper. Here is how I rank the young bucks (23-under who have at least played a game in the NHL to date):
1. Oliver Ekman-Larsson (22)
2. Justin Schultz (23)*
3. Seth Jones (19)
4. Morgan Rielly (19)
5. Dougie Hamilton (20)
6. Justin Faulk (21)*
7. Jacob Trouba (19)
8. Torey Krug (22)
9. Slava Voynov (23)
10. Nick Leddy (22)
11. Sami Vatanen (22)*
12. Jonas Brodin (20)
13. Victor Hedman (22)
14. John Carlson (23)
15. Jake Gardiner (23)
16. Ryan Murphy (20)
17. Mathew Dumba (20)
18. Cam Fowler (21)
19. Hampus Lindholm (19)
20. Nathan Beaulieu (20)
21. Jared Spurgeon (23)
22. Travis Hamonic (23)
23. Ryan Murray (20)
24. Tyson Barrie (22)
25. Zach Bogosian (23) / Roman Josi (23)*
8-GM / WK-H2H
Forwards: G=2, A=1, PP/SH= +1, GWG= +2, Shootout G=1, HT= +1
D-Men/Captain: G=3/A=2
Goalies: W=3, OTL=1, SO= +2, SV= .10
Start = 13F, 6D, 2G / Keep 44 (3G)
Captain: Matthews
(F): MacKinnon, Pasta, Marner, Rantanen, Malkin, Barkov, M.Tkachuk, W.Nylander, Pettersson, Gaudreau, Laine, Keller, Miller, B.Tkachuk, Stutzle, DeBrincat, L.Raymond, K.Johnson, Cozens, Quinn, Guenther, Kulich, Cooley
(D): Makar, Dahlin, Q.Hughes, Ekblad, Rielly, Werenski, Letang, Jones, Chychrun, Seider, Edvinsson, Jiricek, Korchinski, Mintyukov, Ceulemans, Hutson
(G): Shesterkin, Demko, Vejmelka
REIGNING CHAMPION
15 Team Limited Keeper League (18 years)
32 Roster Spots, Protect 17,<41 games played;auto-protected
12 Forwards, 6 Defensemen, 2 Goalies
MY TEAM (4 years)
Forwards: Backstrom,Ovechkin,Kuznetsov,Forsberg,Tavares, Barkov,Huberdeau,Stamkos,Hall,J.Hockey,Dadonov,Carter,Perry,Kesler,Maroon
Defense: Karlsson,Hedman,OEL,Klingberg,Krug,Byfuglien,Keith,Seabrook
Goalies: Bobrovsky,Vasilevsky
Prospects: Bokk,Hayton,Dobson,Blackwood,Comrie,Hogberg
Scoring: G: 2 A: 1 +/-: 0.5 PIM: 0.2 W: 4 L: -1 SO:5 OTL: 1
8-GM / WK-H2H
Forwards: G=2, A=1, PP/SH= +1, GWG= +2, Shootout G=1, HT= +1
D-Men/Captain: G=3/A=2
Goalies: W=3, OTL=1, SO= +2, SV= .10
Start = 13F, 6D, 2G / Keep 44 (3G)
Captain: Matthews
(F): MacKinnon, Pasta, Marner, Rantanen, Malkin, Barkov, M.Tkachuk, W.Nylander, Pettersson, Gaudreau, Laine, Keller, Miller, B.Tkachuk, Stutzle, DeBrincat, L.Raymond, K.Johnson, Cozens, Quinn, Guenther, Kulich, Cooley
(D): Makar, Dahlin, Q.Hughes, Ekblad, Rielly, Werenski, Letang, Jones, Chychrun, Seider, Edvinsson, Jiricek, Korchinski, Mintyukov, Ceulemans, Hutson
(G): Shesterkin, Demko, Vejmelka
12 teams dynasty, Points only ( G and A = 1pt)
F: McDavid (12.5M), Kucherov (9.5M), Boldy (7M), Kyrou (8.13M), J. Norris (7.95M), Zegras (5.95M), Kuzmenko (5.5M), Reichel (0.925M), P. Kane (2.75M), Lundell (0.925M), Rasmussen (1.46M), Rossi (0.86M).
D: Korchinski (0.925M), Byram (3.85M), Burns (5.28M).
G: Kochetkov (2M), Shesterkin (5,670M).
Bench: E. Karlsson (10M), Lucius (0.925M), Edvinsson (0.89M), Askarov (0.925M), Quinn (0.86M), Berggren (0.925M), Stankoven (0.81M), Knight (4.5M), Mitchkov (TBD), Athanasiou (4.25M), Samsonov (3.55M), Klingberg (4.15M).
12 teams dynasty, Points only ( G and A = 1pt)
F: McDavid (12.5M), Kucherov (9.5M), Boldy (7M), Kyrou (8.13M), J. Norris (7.95M), Zegras (5.95M), Kuzmenko (5.5M), Reichel (0.925M), P. Kane (2.75M), Lundell (0.925M), Rasmussen (1.46M), Rossi (0.86M).
D: Korchinski (0.925M), Byram (3.85M), Burns (5.28M).
G: Kochetkov (2M), Shesterkin (5,670M).
Bench: E. Karlsson (10M), Lucius (0.925M), Edvinsson (0.89M), Askarov (0.925M), Quinn (0.86M), Berggren (0.925M), Stankoven (0.81M), Knight (4.5M), Mitchkov (TBD), Athanasiou (4.25M), Samsonov (3.55M), Klingberg (4.15M).
Thanks CHunter
It is disturbing that Faulk isn't getting top pp time even when he's logging 20 plus minutes a night.
I have just acquired OEL.
A question for everyone, would you feel confident putting one of Justin Faulk or Sami Vatenen in the same expectations as
OEL
Schultz
and if not ,is there a 3rd dman that would fit in that list with those 2 that is around the same age.
How about Pietrangelo? Is he a better option then Shattenkirk?
How would you rank Pietrangelo with OEL, Schultz, Faulk and Vatanen?
Thanks
REIGNING CHAMPION
15 Team Limited Keeper League (18 years)
32 Roster Spots, Protect 17,<41 games played;auto-protected
12 Forwards, 6 Defensemen, 2 Goalies
MY TEAM (4 years)
Forwards: Backstrom,Ovechkin,Kuznetsov,Forsberg,Tavares, Barkov,Huberdeau,Stamkos,Hall,J.Hockey,Dadonov,Carter,Perry,Kesler,Maroon
Defense: Karlsson,Hedman,OEL,Klingberg,Krug,Byfuglien,Keith,Seabrook
Goalies: Bobrovsky,Vasilevsky
Prospects: Bokk,Hayton,Dobson,Blackwood,Comrie,Hogberg
Scoring: G: 2 A: 1 +/-: 0.5 PIM: 0.2 W: 4 L: -1 SO:5 OTL: 1
Pietrangelo >>> Shattenkirk for sure.
Pietrangelo
OEL
Schultz
Faulk
Vatanen
H2H - 16 teams - Auction (225 $ cap), cap up to 300$ after auction on any drafted player.
Keep 3, +7$ each year. Keep 5 farm (cost 1$ to dress).[/I]
Points (1), Defense goals (2), Powerplay Points (0.5), GWG (0.5), ShG (0.5)
10 F 4 D 1 G 5 bench 10 farm
F: Kucherov (41$), Pettersson (15$), Marner (29$), Wheller (55$), Landeskog (18$), Horvat (15$), Meier (16$), Fiala (1$), Beauvillier (1$), Getzlaf (1$)
D: Barrie (17$), Fox (1$), Girard (1$), Trouba (2$)
G: Markstrom (6$)
Bench: Athanasiou, Granlund, Gostisbehere, Matheson, Garland
Farm: Boldy, Gurianov, Puljujarvi, Dach, Glass, Kaprizov, Patrick, Sanheim, Tomasino, Sorokin
If Vatanen can "overcome" the size issue he has a ton of upside
He reminds me quite a lot of Reijo Routsalainen who was paired with Barry Beck
Adam Almquist also comes to mind
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