Read this with great interest, after Jeff tweeted it, great article on the subject: http://canucksarmy.com/2011/12/5/is-...ract-immovable
This is for Angus, who just tweeted along the lines of my point above, that Garrioch is usually full of crap and that "the Canucks haven't discussed Luongo in any trade talks". My only comment is, how do you know this for sure Jeff? It seems like a pretty bold statement. I mean it's one thing to say you don't believe they dangled Luongo, or that it wouldn't make sense to dangle him, but to say they didn't?
Last edited by ross10019; December 5, 2011 at 7:30 PM.
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CBS Sportsline 14 team H2H keeper (21-man roster, 14 keepers)
Weekly lineup changes (start 9F (3/4C and 6/5W) 5D 2G)
G, A, PPP, SOG, BS, +/-, GAA, W, SV%
Angry Little Elves (formerly Montreal Maulers)
2012, 2013, 2014 & 2015 League Champions
C: Tavares Hintz Larkin Jenner Seguin Schenn Backlund
W: Panarin Marchand Hyman Keller Forsberg Batherson Rust Moore Smith
D: Josi Hamilton Weegar Montour Ekholm Myers Parayko Pettersson Seeler
G: Vasilevskiy Swayman Kuemper
Read this with great interest, after Jeff tweeted it, great article on the subject: http://canucksarmy.com/2011/12/5/is-...ract-immovable
"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
Twitter: @ross10019
CBS Sportsline 14 team H2H keeper (21-man roster, 14 keepers)
Weekly lineup changes (start 9F (3/4C and 6/5W) 5D 2G)
G, A, PPP, SOG, BS, +/-, GAA, W, SV%
Angry Little Elves (formerly Montreal Maulers)
2012, 2013, 2014 & 2015 League Champions
C: Tavares Hintz Larkin Jenner Seguin Schenn Backlund
W: Panarin Marchand Hyman Keller Forsberg Batherson Rust Moore Smith
D: Josi Hamilton Weegar Montour Ekholm Myers Parayko Pettersson Seeler
G: Vasilevskiy Swayman Kuemper
Yea, I can't buy into the "Canucks haven't discussed Luongo in any trade talks," but I do agree moving Luongo is highly unlikely, and in all honesty could leave the club with egg on their face if Schneider didn't pan out.
Even the author of above article agrees its likely luongo's name has come up in trade talks.
That sounds more accurate to me. I mean, Feaster is saying he's not considering trading Iginla, which may be he case, but I'd bet money his name is surfacing in trade talks.I suspect that Gillis has been taking calls about Roberto Luongo (and Cory Schneider) and gauging league interest in the two, I doubt that either goaltender will find themselves traded this season
10tm Dynasty Lg - $96M CAP
G A PTS +/- PIM PPP SOG W GAA SV% SO
C: Barkov, Eichel, McDavid
RW: P. Kane, Okposo
LW: E. Kane, Couture
D: Subban, Byfuglien, Faulk, Vatanen, Morgan Reilly
G: Schneider, Gibson/Andersen
UTIL: Kuznetsov, Kadri, Little, Stone
Farm
D: J. Schultz, Sekera, Hanifin, Hamonic
F: Spooner, Silfverberg, Konecny, Roussell
G: F. Andersen/Gibson, Mason, Ward, Anderson
Prospect:
F - D Strome, Burakovsky, Raantanen, Bjorkstrand
D - Ryan Murphy
Chris Higgins will sit out tonight's game with a foot infection. Lineup as follows:
Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Booth-Kesler-Hansen
Raymond-Hodgson-Weise
Malhotra-Lappierre-Oreskovich
Hamhuis-Bieksa
Edler-Salo
Ballard-Rome
Expect a high-energy game from Oreskovich, he's gotta want his spot back but it's gonna take a lot of hard, dirty work to make it happen. He should be flying and laying out the hits tonight.
Thing I'm most excited for tonight? Watching Stefan Elliott again. Hoping for more than nine minutes but lot's of PP time is expected. Stoked for tonight's game!
10tm Dynasty Lg - $96M CAP
G A PTS +/- PIM PPP SOG W GAA SV% SO
C: Barkov, Eichel, McDavid
RW: P. Kane, Okposo
LW: E. Kane, Couture
D: Subban, Byfuglien, Faulk, Vatanen, Morgan Reilly
G: Schneider, Gibson/Andersen
UTIL: Kuznetsov, Kadri, Little, Stone
Farm
D: J. Schultz, Sekera, Hanifin, Hamonic
F: Spooner, Silfverberg, Konecny, Roussell
G: F. Andersen/Gibson, Mason, Ward, Anderson
Prospect:
F - D Strome, Burakovsky, Raantanen, Bjorkstrand
D - Ryan Murphy
"Good" news in terms of the Booth knee-on-knee incident against Colorado, it's a sprained MCL and he should be back in 4-6 weeks. Apparently it's much better than what it could have been, thanks to Angus for that tidbit.
Bill Sweatt, who has 4-goals and 9-points in 19 AHL games, has been recalled.
Here's a link to a Jeff Paterson article on what realignment should mean for Vancouver.
10tm Dynasty Lg - $96M CAP
G A PTS +/- PIM PPP SOG W GAA SV% SO
C: Barkov, Eichel, McDavid
RW: P. Kane, Okposo
LW: E. Kane, Couture
D: Subban, Byfuglien, Faulk, Vatanen, Morgan Reilly
G: Schneider, Gibson/Andersen
UTIL: Kuznetsov, Kadri, Little, Stone
Farm
D: J. Schultz, Sekera, Hanifin, Hamonic
F: Spooner, Silfverberg, Konecny, Roussell
G: F. Andersen/Gibson, Mason, Ward, Anderson
Prospect:
F - D Strome, Burakovsky, Raantanen, Bjorkstrand
D - Ryan Murphy
Mind blowing stat of the day:
Aaron Rome has more PP TOI/Game than Ballard or Bieksa.
Thank God AV doesn't play favourites....
/S
~ I'm not a sociopath, it's just that my magnetic personality keeps throwing off my moral compass.~
Victoria DH
C(3): Athanasiou, Sissons, Zibanejad
LW(3): Lehkonen, Burakovsky, Hymen
RW(3): Bjorkstrand, Smith, Palmieri
F(3): Stepan (C), Bjork (LW), Poehling (C)
D(6): Carlson, Heiskanen, Bogosian, Edler, Hakanpaa, Fleury
G(1): Talbot, Sorokin, Varlamov
Bench: Parise (LW), Motte (C), Richardson (C), Hagg (D)
IR: Wood, Henrique, Johnson, Dvorak
Prospects: (F) Barre-Boulet, Khovanov, Beckman, Greig, N. Robertson, Fagemo, Tuomalaa, (D) Ceulemans, Hughes, Schneider, Zboril
More fun with Canuck stats:
Points/60min TOI
The only person whose number I'd question compared to the others here is Rome, as he has played less than half the games that everyone else on the list has.Daniel Sedin 3.69
Henrik Sedin 3.46
Cody Hodgson 2.44
Chris Higgins 2.44
Ryan Kesler 2.38
Jannik Hansen 2.18
David Booth 2.12
Alexandre Burrows 1.92
Alexander Edler 1.86
Aaron Rome 1.77
Sami Salo 1.72
Maxim Lapierre 1.48
Dan Hamhuis 1.39
Kevin Bieksa 1.22
Manny Malhotra 1.13
Dale Weise 0.75
Keith Ballard 0.59
Interesting that CoHo has the third highest P/60min on the team yet has the 2nd lowest TOI/game on the list... gotta wonder how long until he forces his way up (especially with injuries).
/S
~ I'm not a sociopath, it's just that my magnetic personality keeps throwing off my moral compass.~
Victoria DH
C(3): Athanasiou, Sissons, Zibanejad
LW(3): Lehkonen, Burakovsky, Hymen
RW(3): Bjorkstrand, Smith, Palmieri
F(3): Stepan (C), Bjork (LW), Poehling (C)
D(6): Carlson, Heiskanen, Bogosian, Edler, Hakanpaa, Fleury
G(1): Talbot, Sorokin, Varlamov
Bench: Parise (LW), Motte (C), Richardson (C), Hagg (D)
IR: Wood, Henrique, Johnson, Dvorak
Prospects: (F) Barre-Boulet, Khovanov, Beckman, Greig, N. Robertson, Fagemo, Tuomalaa, (D) Ceulemans, Hughes, Schneider, Zboril
10tm Dynasty Lg - $96M CAP
G A PTS +/- PIM PPP SOG W GAA SV% SO
C: Barkov, Eichel, McDavid
RW: P. Kane, Okposo
LW: E. Kane, Couture
D: Subban, Byfuglien, Faulk, Vatanen, Morgan Reilly
G: Schneider, Gibson/Andersen
UTIL: Kuznetsov, Kadri, Little, Stone
Farm
D: J. Schultz, Sekera, Hanifin, Hamonic
F: Spooner, Silfverberg, Konecny, Roussell
G: F. Andersen/Gibson, Mason, Ward, Anderson
Prospect:
F - D Strome, Burakovsky, Raantanen, Bjorkstrand
D - Ryan Murphy
I definitely understand -- it's the Detroit model. You wait to give players bigtime opportunity until after they've already busted their ass to demonstrate over a long period of time that they're ready for it. Prove it first... not over 10-20 games, but over 60-100.
Then, when that opportunity comes, they're so starving for it that they keep working as hard as they can to make the most of it.
Gillis has been absolutely transparent that he's modeled the Canucks after the Wings -- depth everywhere, loads of competition, and you pay your dues (in junior, then the AHL or overseas, then the NHL) before you get legit top-6 icetime. Then, when that opportunity comes, the players seem to go "boom".
That's just good management and succession planning -- it's not putting hotshots into "stretch" positions until they've demonstrated that they can clobber the position. Works in the real world too!
Great analysis and I agree for the most part. Thing is, I don't consider Hodgson a "hot shot" and I don't suggest moving him into a top-six role either. What I could see is a little more ice time. He's proven to be smart defensively and not a risk while on the ice. Maybe a little more trust just to reward the hard work and great production would be nice. I can't argue, though, with the "prove it for longer" mantra, it really is the best and smartest way to go about it. I think a little bit of ice time in the OT last night was a deserved thing though - simply as a reward.
10tm Dynasty Lg - $96M CAP
G A PTS +/- PIM PPP SOG W GAA SV% SO
C: Barkov, Eichel, McDavid
RW: P. Kane, Okposo
LW: E. Kane, Couture
D: Subban, Byfuglien, Faulk, Vatanen, Morgan Reilly
G: Schneider, Gibson/Andersen
UTIL: Kuznetsov, Kadri, Little, Stone
Farm
D: J. Schultz, Sekera, Hanifin, Hamonic
F: Spooner, Silfverberg, Konecny, Roussell
G: F. Andersen/Gibson, Mason, Ward, Anderson
Prospect:
F - D Strome, Burakovsky, Raantanen, Bjorkstrand
D - Ryan Murphy
Makes sense... earning your ice time is important.
Now about Aaron Rome....
/S
~ I'm not a sociopath, it's just that my magnetic personality keeps throwing off my moral compass.~
Victoria DH
C(3): Athanasiou, Sissons, Zibanejad
LW(3): Lehkonen, Burakovsky, Hymen
RW(3): Bjorkstrand, Smith, Palmieri
F(3): Stepan (C), Bjork (LW), Poehling (C)
D(6): Carlson, Heiskanen, Bogosian, Edler, Hakanpaa, Fleury
G(1): Talbot, Sorokin, Varlamov
Bench: Parise (LW), Motte (C), Richardson (C), Hagg (D)
IR: Wood, Henrique, Johnson, Dvorak
Prospects: (F) Barre-Boulet, Khovanov, Beckman, Greig, N. Robertson, Fagemo, Tuomalaa, (D) Ceulemans, Hughes, Schneider, Zboril
look what popped up today, blayze will love this
12 Team, One year, Points only - G,A,PPG,SHG, no positional restrictions
2 points goalie W, 2 points goalie SHO, -.5 goalie loss, start 1 goalie per night
Hughes, Panarin, Connor, Konecny, Terry, Necas, Gaudreau, Schmaltz, Nichushkin, Zacha
Makar, Hedman, Andersson, DeAngelo
Gustavsson, Talbot
10tm Dynasty Lg - $96M CAP
G A PTS +/- PIM PPP SOG W GAA SV% SO
C: Barkov, Eichel, McDavid
RW: P. Kane, Okposo
LW: E. Kane, Couture
D: Subban, Byfuglien, Faulk, Vatanen, Morgan Reilly
G: Schneider, Gibson/Andersen
UTIL: Kuznetsov, Kadri, Little, Stone
Farm
D: J. Schultz, Sekera, Hanifin, Hamonic
F: Spooner, Silfverberg, Konecny, Roussell
G: F. Andersen/Gibson, Mason, Ward, Anderson
Prospect:
F - D Strome, Burakovsky, Raantanen, Bjorkstrand
D - Ryan Murphy
Luongo getting the start tonight, Dan Murphy seems to think that Luongo will get this start and the start on Saturday against the Leafs meaning Schneider likely sees action on Thursday against Carolina.
Sweatt has been sent down and Rome has taken his spot on the fourth line, AV wants more physicality out of that fourth line and evidently he wasn't satisfied with Oreskovich or Sweatt. Alberts will pair up with Ballard on the back end.
Also Happy Birthday to Dan Hamhuis! Nobody wants to play poorly on their birthday.
Goalies: If I'm pickin em you best be sittin em!
Was only able to catch the first period and the shoot out in this game. Quick thoughts:
Solid game by Luongo but getting tired of seeing him flat on his stomach with a puck in the net. Absolutely brutal as usual in the shoot out, pretty sure I would have stood a better chance.
Burrows - lol uses the SAME MOVE EVERY TIME in the shootout/penalty shots and it cracks me up when he scored with it.
PP was absolutely dry. Columbus gave them so many opportunities to stick it to them but they just couldn't bury them.
Goalies: If I'm pickin em you best be sittin em!