Originally Posted by dyzfunctioned
I thought he addressed those saying he was disappointed with his performance and was focusing 100% on next year?
The thing is, after the top end of the draft, there were no defencemen who could just step right in and help the team now. They already have a number of blueliner prospects in the cupboard and actually needed more forwards.
So it made sense to not go blueline heavy as the draft went on.
I'm very surprised Finn or Thrower weren't picked at 32. I think one of those two rather than Moroz may have been better long-term, but I'll defer to the scouting experts for now.
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I was pretty bummed they passed on finn/collberg, just as last year I was bummed when they passed on Jenner.
Zharkov pick seems incredibly intriguing. Some reports I read say he has the most talent in the draft outside of the Yak/Grig/Galch, but that he often does not know what to do with that talent (will try and skate through opposing players etc).
Also one report suggested he was quite the diver and has some big time "compete level" question marks - so I guess that's a big reason why he fell in the draft.
His post-draft interview said that he wants to be better than Yakupov and that he is essentially angry (perhaps about is draft position).
Seems like an extreme boom/bust type player that the team could afford to take a chance on at that point in the draft. If he can get his anger turned into effort than maybe he can become less of a perimeter player and become effective.
I heard is was quite rattled after losing many friends in that plane crash in Russia. He seemed to want to in re-evaluation mode about his life and career. Maybe the summer and a trade to NYI would help his outlook?
Finn would have been a great addition, yeah.
Matt Bugg seems to really like our draft this year as opposed to some other seasons, so we'll see what happens. One of the nice things with drafting some overagers is the potential for having them jump onto the roster a little quicker perhaps - and with the team hopfully ready to finally turn into a competitor this year, that's a big advantage.
I have a feeling Zharkov at 93rd overall is going to be a gem for us. He was upset that he dropped as low as he did, and he claims it lit a fire in him to prove people wrong. That and he is quoted as feeling he can be as good as Yakupov. What better way to prove it than to play alongside him in a couple of years?
I'm also intrigued by our 6th rounder LaLeggia. Good friend of RNH's and an outstanding scorer from the blueline. 38 points in 43 games at U of Denver last year and 82 points in 58 games the previous year in the BCHL. Undersized at 5'10", but has potential home-run upside.
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Like the Laleggia and Zharkov picks. Still wish we took Collberg or Finn over Moroz, but I'm sure we'll see who's better in a few years.
Moroz pick kind of reminds me of when they took Cameron Abney in the third round back in 2009. I guess it sounds like Moroz has more skill to offer but I still don't like the whole draft an enforcer early thing.
I absolutely agree with the idea of drafting bigger forwards however. Any defenseman taken out of the first round is looking at like three years of development minimum. A forward could surprise in one or two years.
Of course Finn has first round talent so I dunno but as far as prospects go the team actually has quite a few good defensemen. Just none are all that ready. So yeah, big forwards was a reasonable way to go just not sure about Moroz.
The more I read about Moroz the more I hate the pick.
We really took this guy over Collberg and Finn? =/
Yeah, any time that you are picking that high (not to say 32nd is super high but still) you really don't want your reaction to be, "Who?"
lol...I was coming here to complain that we passed on Finn to grab Moroz, and see that you guys have already started that campaign. I am VERY disappointed. I had Finn going in the first round and was shocked he was still available. Considering the run on dmen in the first round, Edmonton should have jumped all over him.
He isn't necessarily the answer to our problems on the backend, but he would have been a very solid addition with the potential, if he continues to develop, to exceed my expectations of him.
Generally I was very unhappy with the draft, other than Yakupov, of course.
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To me its like the Oilers felt they had to choose someone off the Oil Kings to "support" them and Moroz was the best player left to be taken. I still think he would have been available in the 3rd as he wasnt rated that highly going into the draft. I may be wrong in saying that but thats just how I feel. There were plenty of other skilled players still there at 32 (most have been mentioned already) that the Oilers could have/should have taken before Moroz was taken.
Its hard to question Stu as he has normally been the only reliable thing in the franchise the past few years and I am sure he has his reasoning for making this pick, but to me the Oilers squeezed the stick too early and paniked or something with this pick.
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IMO Finn > Musil who we used our 31st on last year and Both >>>> Moroz...
I like the Yakupov, Laleggia, and Zharkov picks. Pretty much hated the rest.
FWIW, given who was still on the board at our picks, if I was drafting I would have gone:
2nd: Matt Finn
3rd: Tim Bozon
3rd (from LAK): Zharkov
4th: Brady Vail
5th: Joey Laleggia
6th: Jesse Graham
Long story short, I really liked MTL's picks haha.
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