Edmonton Oilers

[chuckcouples]

That seals Yamamoto being returned to Juniors I would think.
Letestu playing 2nd line RW shows the lack of depth this team has at RW. Not sure I like that idea, especially because it opens up his typical spot at #4c where he is very good.

Would love to see RNH have a big game because he has looked really good so far this year.

Letestu did not last long on the RW of the 2nd line. He was replaced by Strome. RNH had the game that you wished for with 2 goals. Does anybody else think that Pat Maroon is not a very good hockey player. Sure he has 7 points in 9 games and scored 27 goals last year but he has played something like 98% of this even strength time with McDavid. I would rather see Caggiula on a line with McDavid and Draisaitl as I think he would be a much better fit with those 2.

[Axeman33]

Maroon is there because he goes into the dirty places and adds a physical presense to McDavid's line. It was supposed to be Lucic's role but he didn't gel well with McDavid where are Maroon seems to fit well. He doesn't have to be a good hockey player, he just has to be a good linemate to McDavid and so far, he's become that.

As we saw last year, not everyone works well with superstars (*cough Eberle) and when you find one, you keep it working. Much like Kunitz with Crosby. Most didn't think Kunitz was a very good player either, but he worked well with Crosby and allowed him to do what he needed to do.

My only fear is Maroon signing a big payday for his role. I can see him getting a good term deal but I am afraid of the cap hit he will get once his new deal is signed.

[LawMan]

Maroon is there because he goes into the dirty places and adds a physical presense to McDavid's line. It was supposed to be Lucic's role but he didn't gel well with McDavid where are Maroon seems to fit well. He doesn't have to be a good hockey player, he just has to be a good linemate to McDavid and so far, he's become that.

As we saw last year, not everyone works well with superstars (*cough Eberle) and when you find one, you keep it working. Much like Kunitz with Crosby. Most didn't think Kunitz was a very good player either, but he worked well with Crosby and allowed him to do what he needed to do.

My only fear is Maroon signing a big payday for his role. I can see him getting a good term deal but I am afraid of the cap hit he will get once his new deal is signed.

Agreed with all of the above. Maroon is not a great player in a bubble, that is obvious from his career high 12 goals and 34 points when not on a team with McDavid. That being said he does play extremely well with McDavid, and sometimes superstars finding consistency is tough. Maroon's next contract is going to be interesting, I hope the Oilers don't give him a big payday. I can see him getting like $4.5m+ from some team and scoring 20 goals and 45 points in another City.

[Axeman33]

I didnt get to watch the game last night, but I read about the game this morning. Glad to see the Oilers get the win but disheartened to hear that Oiler fans in attendance booed Taylor Hall after he scored. Man, it's not like he was a holdout or demanded a trade out of Edmonton. Just sad to read that this morning.

[Luffy D Monkey]

I didnt get to watch the game last night, but I read about the game this morning. Glad to see the Oilers get the win but disheartened to hear that Oiler fans in attendance booed Taylor Hall after he scored. Man, it's not like he was a holdout or demanded a trade out of Edmonton. Just sad to read that this morning.

Yeh, not classy at all by Edmonton fans. Just makes me more disgusted with this franchise and fanbase.

[lobo1969]

I didnt get to watch the game last night, but I read about the game this morning. Glad to see the Oilers get the win but disheartened to hear that Oiler fans in attendance booed Taylor Hall after he scored. Man, it's not like he was a holdout or demanded a trade out of Edmonton. Just sad to read that this morning.

The booing was half hearted and more tongue in cheek than anything. Most of the fanbase still really likes Hall. You're reading too much into it.

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Yeh, not classy at all by Edmonton fans. Just makes me more disgusted with this franchise and fanbase.

Awwwwwwwwwwwww, feel free to choke on your disgust.

[Shift Disturber]

The booing was half hearted and more tongue in cheek than anything. Most of the fanbase still really likes Hall. You're reading too much into it.

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Awwwwwwwwwwwww, feel free to choke on your disgust.

Yeah, I didn't take the booing as directed against Hall, but against the trade and the fact that he's having a great year so far and the Oilers were offensively hamstrung. I think there's still a lot of affection for Hall among Oiler fans.

[Axeman33]

The booing was half hearted and more tongue in cheek than anything. Most of the fanbase still really likes Hall. You're reading too much into it.

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Awwwwwwwwwwwww, feel free to choke on your disgust.

You could be right. As I say, I didn't watch the game but felt bad for Hall after reading that this morning.

[The Black Panther]

Agreed with all of the above. Maroon is not a great player in a bubble, that is obvious from his career high 12 goals and 34 points when not on a team with McDavid. That being said he does play extremely well with McDavid, and sometimes superstars finding consistency is tough. Maroon's next contract is going to be interesting, I hope the Oilers don't give him a big payday. I can see him getting like $4.5m+ from some team and scoring 20 goals and 45 points in another City.

You really see Maroon getting those numbers on another team?
I dunno.
I think he'll get 5+ easy. He's not going anywhere if MacDavid says so.

[chuckcouples]

There is no way that Patrick Maroon is worth anything near $4M per season. He is simply the result of spending so much time with the best offensive player in the NHL. Here is the list of forwards that have shown "chemistry" with McDavid (players with who McDavid has a higher Corsi For% when playing with then when playing without from either the 2016/17 or the 2017/18 NHL season as per naturalstattrick).

Puljujarvu
Pakarinen x2
Eberle
Draisaitl
Lucic x2
Nugent-Hopkins
Pitlick
Slepyshev
Jokinen
Yamamoto
Letestu
Strome

Notice someone who does not make this list? That's right, the guy who has shown tremendous "chemistry" with Connor McDavid actually brings McDavid's corsi for % down when they are on the ice together.

*I understand there are some very small sample sizes at work

[The Comish]

There is no way that Patrick Maroon is worth anything near $4M per season. He is simply the result of spending so much time with the best offensive player in the NHL. Here is the list of forwards that have shown "chemistry" with McDavid (players with who McDavid has a higher Corsi For% when playing with then when playing without from either the 2016/17 or the 2017/18 NHL season as per naturalstattrick).

Puljujarvu
Pakarinen x2
Eberle
Draisaitl
Lucic x2
Nugent-Hopkins
Pitlick
Slepyshev
Jokinen
Yamamoto
Letestu
Strome

Notice someone who does not make this list? That's right, the guy who has shown tremendous "chemistry" with Connor McDavid actually brings McDavid's corsi for % down when they are on the ice together.

*I understand there are some very small sample sizes at work

The only stats that matter are goals and assists. Unfortunately, Maroon will likely get paid more than what he should. However, the Oilers can play on the McDavid factor and see if Maroon will sign for less than what he MIGHT get on another team in order to "keep the band together". It will be interesting to see how this plays out for sure.

[Godin]

Ok, so what's going on with this team? Lost again today at home to Detroit 4-0.

How can a team with supposedly the best player in the world be 9 points behind an expansion team in the standings and the 2nd worst team in the league point wise? Have they quit on Todd McLellan? Is it Talbot? Are they not as good as everyone thought they were going to be? All of the above?

Yes, it is too early to panic, but how long do we keep saying that?

[forumname]

Per the Hall booing, it doesn't have to mean "you're a prick and we hate you". Booing can just mean "you're not one of us anymore so you're the enemy".

[Jouko-Pouko]

Ok, so what's going on with this team? Lost again today at home to Detroit 4-0.

How can a team with supposedly the best player in the world be 9 points behind an expansion team in the standings and the 2nd worst team in the league point wise? Have they quit on Todd McLellan? Is it Talbot? Are they not as good as everyone thought they were going to be? All of the above?

Yes, it is too early to panic, but how long do we keep saying that?

Playoffs are slowly getting out of reach, so I would think they'll do something to wake up the team. I doubt we see anyone from their core traded anymore, so firing the head coach is more likely. I have no idea if that helps or what's the real problem with that team but they seem slow and lazy, especially defensively.

Just speculating, no source or inside information (apparently that's important to clarify each time ).

[Godin]

Playoffs are slowly getting out of reach, so I would think they'll do something to wake up the team. I doubt we see anyone from their core traded anymore, so firing the head coach is more likely. I have no idea if that helps or what's the real problem with that team but they seem slow and lazy, especially defensively.

Just speculating, no source or inside information (apparently that's important to clarify each time ).

Yes. Thanks for the disclaimer. Should be included in all necessary posts.