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    5 players have been instructed to surrender to London police to face charges for sexual assault. Still waiting for big sources and names but it sounds real.

    Wow.

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    Innocent until proven guilty butttt:
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    McLeod was absent from a team event this week
    Formenton never getting a deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by rtstr View Post
    5 players have been instructed to surrender to London police to face charges for sexual assault. Still waiting for big sources and names but it sounds real.

    Wow.
    Rick Westhead tweet this half an hour ago. He's been all over this story since it's inception, so that's about as big of a source as you need here. No names yet, and it's not really fair to assume anything at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    Rick Westhead tweet this half an hour ago. He's been all over this story since it's inception, so that's about as big of a source as you need here. No names yet, and it's not really fair to assume anything at this point.
    It was actually Robyn Doolittle (Globe and Mail Reporter) breaking it and Rick Westhead citing her. Robyn said she had 2 sources saying the story, but he article is behind a paywall (which is BS).

    If Robyn is writing a Globe and Mail article on it, it's 99.9999% factual (nothing is 100%)

    Also side note, mere minutes after 5 players are told to surrender to police about sexual assault, a prospective NHL owner is asking the league to start the expansion process (Utah). The NHL is trying to hide/bury the sexual assault news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    It was actually Robyn Doolittle (Globe and Mail Reporter) breaking it and Rick Westhead citing her. Robyn said she had 2 sources saying the story, but he article is behind a paywall (which is BS).

    If Robyn is writing a Globe and Mail article on it, it's 99.9999% factual (nothing is 100%)
    Paywall or not, if there were names out there, they would already be plastered over twitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    Paywall or not, if there were names out there, they would already be plastered over twitter.
    Oh ya, there won't be names until they surrender and are booked, then I would think it's public information.
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    I'm relieved the offenders are being charged...I just hope this doesn't turn in to a long-term trial.

    For the sake of the victim, I hope the evidence is solid enough that the offenders accept some sort of plea agreement and serve their sentence.
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    Formenton is on route to Canada as he has been granted an "indefinite leave of absence for personal reasons" from his Swiss team.
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    So... is it the victim who has to press these charges, or could it be done by anyone, potentially forcing the victim to something they didn't want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loppantorkel View Post
    So... is it the victim who has to press these charges, or could it be done by anyone, potentially forcing the victim to something they didn't want?
    Pretty sure the victim is pressing charges the whole time. Since the news broke, it was London Police that was holding up things. And in 2018 it was London Police saying they didn't have enough to charge anyone (AKA didn't take it seriously enough).
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    Pretty sure the victim is pressing charges the whole time. Since the news broke, it was London Police that was holding up things. And in 2018 it was London Police saying they didn't have enough to charge anyone (AKA didn't take it seriously enough).
    Could be. Although they settled a lawsuit a year or so ago. I'd assume there would be some legal constraint on the victim to push it further, but the laws are quite different from here. I believe practically anyone could force an investigation of rape here, not just the victim.

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    it would seem that just based on optics alone, these 4 plus another un-named are the guilty parties..but i am no genius, and really all speculative.
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    Formenton - Leaving Switzerland to return to Canada for "personal reasons"
    Hart - Leaving Flyers for "personal reasons"
    Dube - Leaving Calgary for "personal reasons"

    Then this is more of a "keep an eye on" but:
    McLeod - Not at team event last night, and not at practice today
    Foote - Not at team event last night, and not at practice today

    It is flu season, and they could be away from the team because of that. I'm sure post practice there will be questions by local reporters on it.
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    The Hart and Dube thing at the same time, both for personal reason's is really suspect. I don't know how you can think otherwise.
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    McLeod and Foote are on a leave for "personal reasons"
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