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    Thumbs up Received offer of Ovie for Kucherov

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    Keep 3. I came into the draft keeping McDavid, Kane, Kucherov

    I enquired about Ovie. The response was "Kucherov" would get my interest.
    I really like Kucherov. However, IMO Ovechkin fills more of our scoring categories.

    We don't trade draft picks.

    Is there a big enough drop off between the two to go 1 for 1 ? Or should I come back with Laine or Kane.
    Or stick with what I have ?

    His keepers : Crosby, Ovechkin, Hedman. He would like to make that grouping younger with the exception of Hedman.

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    I'd keep Kuch here

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    Default Re: Received offer of Ovie for Kucherov

    Any other opinions out there ?

    Give up Kucherov for Ovechkin ? Or counter with someone else for Ovechkin ?
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    I think I make this trade. Your group is so strong that having Ovi who I think in your settings can outperform Kuch by a fair margin this year is worth it. Worse case scenario he has another lack luster season where his decline looks even more prominent and you keep Laine or Tank as your third.
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    Is this a post draft trade? Like u will still have Laine and tank
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    Sorry guys, out today taking advantage of the few remaining golf days.

    Yes this offer is post draft.
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    Ovechkin is a beast in your format. I think the trade is worth the gamble.

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    I'd do it. You win this year. If he plays like ovi u can keep him if he slows down I still think he ranks higher with your stats and you can keep Laine or tank instead
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    I like Ovi here as well. The only category where Kuch is likely to strongly outperform Ovi is Assists. Goals, PPP are almost even (according to last years stats) but Ovi really carries the peripherals.
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    Crosby, Ovechkin, Hedman - still solid. I honestly don't see Ovi dipping to much. I would stick to Ovi. maybe in next look at trade offers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabonov View Post
    Crosby, Ovechkin, Hedman - still solid. I honestly don't see Ovi dipping to much. I would stick to Ovi. maybe in next look at trade offers.
    The OP is actually asking about trading his Kucherov (From Keepers McDavid, Kucherov, Kane) for Ovie (other GM has Crosby, Ovie, Hedman).

    So the OP’s keepers after draft become McDavid, Ovie, Kane.

    I personally value Kucherov more despite the cats... but with Laine a likely keeper after this season, I'd maybe try my luck with adding Ovie and see what happens. YOu can always slot Laine in for Ovie/Kane a/o trade one and keep Laine. Good deal for win now.

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    Ovechkin is married now.
    Life is over for him.
    Wheels come off this year.
    Write it in pen.

    Dry humour aside, I think you keep Kucherov and find your HITS elsewhere.

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    I don't think you worry about keepers at this point -- since you have several guys (Laine, Tank) as mentioned above that will be considered at the end of the year regardless of this trade in September.

    And it does seem like Ovy will be better in your setup.

    I'd look for a sweetener though. Clearly the other guy values Kuch > Ovy. Exploit that. I rarely do 1-for-1 deals because if someone's willing to do it, they clearly see themselves winning. Who are his goalies? Any way to upgrade yours? (I'd be worried about injury with that group). Or his D? (Besides Hedman obviously).

    Worst case, shoot for a pick/pick upgrade here.
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    He covets Kucherov as he wants to get younger. Replacing Ovie with a Kucherov as his 3rd keeper along with Crosby and a Hedman.
    I have been playing the old man Ovie going to the 2018 Olympics card.
    He may consider Tank in place of Kucherov..

    As for milking his want of Kucherov, my Ghost and Allen have come into the conversation for his Ristolainen, Murray.

    And further to the drama, I just received an offer of Eichel coming my way for Gibson and parts which I am accepting.
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    24 year old just starting prime for 32 year old entering down side of prime no bueno.
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