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    I have Ovi in a salary cap league... received a few floater offers.... one includes Getting Simmonds and Schenn plus a spec (TBD later) and a 1st

    League stats G A P PP +- HITS


    those two guys enough plus the futures?
    C: Giroux, Johansen, Schenn
    LW: Forseberg, J Hockey, Patch
    RW: Tara, Radulov, Toffoli
    D: Josi, Werenski,
    Ghost, Keith
    F: Coyle, Ehlers,
    Tkatchuk
    B:
    Konency, Rantanen, Hartnell, Gallagher, Spezza
    G: Price, Bishop






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    Salary cap league without SOG and no special bonus for goals? That sounds like a pretty good offer for Ovie. Who would you end up dropping to make room?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jouko-Pouko View Post
    Salary cap league without SOG and no special bonus for goals? That sounds like a pretty good offer for Ovie. Who would you end up dropping to make room?
    I have an empty roster spot--
    C: Giroux, Johansen, Schenn
    LW: Forseberg, J Hockey, Patch
    RW: Tara, Radulov, Toffoli
    D: Josi, Werenski,
    Ghost, Keith
    F: Coyle, Ehlers,
    Tkatchuk
    B:
    Konency, Rantanen, Hartnell, Gallagher, Spezza
    G: Price, Bishop






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    i think ovi will bounce back and have huge season, having said that its great return and in year or 2 the true decline will start for #8

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    Yeah, without SOG and no kicker for goals, Ovi is not untouchable. I'd still want a guy with 65+ downside and 70+ upside, and neither Schenn nor Simmonds fits the bill.
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    Im thinking if ovi is a 40 goal guys.. schenn and simmonds can exceeed that.... they can both exceed him in hits as well as PP points.....

    barring injury to either the two.... I think it makes sense to make the deal... just can't seem to pull trigger maybe im bias towards Ovi- 4 years left at 9.5
    C: Giroux, Johansen, Schenn
    LW: Forseberg, J Hockey, Patch
    RW: Tara, Radulov, Toffoli
    D: Josi, Werenski,
    Ghost, Keith
    F: Coyle, Ehlers,
    Tkatchuk
    B:
    Konency, Rantanen, Hartnell, Gallagher, Spezza
    G: Price, Bishop






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    couple questions,

    what would that TBA be?
    what can you get with the 1st?
    if you declined, what can you fill that empty roster spot with?

    I think Ovie returns with 40-45g and 30-35a this year his 75pts + empty roster slot vs. Simmonds 60-65pts & Schenn's 55-60pts.

    I'm not trading if it's a wash. I want/need an overall roster upgrade
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    couple questions,

    what would that TBA be?
    what can you get with the 1st?
    if you declined, what can you fill that empty roster spot with?

    I think Ovie returns with 40-45g and 30-35a this year his 75pts + empty roster slot vs. Simmonds 60-65pts & Schenn's 55-60pts.

    I'm not trading if it's a wash. I want/need an overall roster upgrade

    1st is a 2018 pick most likley between 11-14
    spec would be Kyrou or Raddysh- hes pushing Raddysh

    i'd be filling the roster spot with waiver fodder lol
    C: Giroux, Johansen, Schenn
    LW: Forseberg, J Hockey, Patch
    RW: Tara, Radulov, Toffoli
    D: Josi, Werenski,
    Ghost, Keith
    F: Coyle, Ehlers,
    Tkatchuk
    B:
    Konency, Rantanen, Hartnell, Gallagher, Spezza
    G: Price, Bishop






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    Quote Originally Posted by JRA View Post
    1st is a 2018 pick most likley between 11-14
    spec would be Kyrou or Raddysh- hes pushing Raddysh

    i'd be filling the roster spot with waiver fodder lol
    waiver fodder = 40ish pts? I'd see if you could drop the prospect and get a bump on Schenn
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRA View Post
    I have Ovi in a salary cap league... received a few floater offers.... one includes Getting Simmonds and Schenn plus a spec (TBD later) and a 1st

    League stats G A P PP +- HITS


    those two guys enough plus the futures?
    Take that offer and run! Simmonds is 6m less and not too far off on points.
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    Simmonds and Schenn are about $9.1M combined while Ovie alone is $9.5M. Simmonds and Schenn can probably score a combined 110-120 points while Ovie probably gets 65-75, so the WW add would need to score 45 points for league minimum salary, and still the Simmonds/Schenn side would be better because they'd be a bit cheaper.

    Ovie is definitely overpaid with your stats, so the only question is - how valuable is cap space in your league? And do you have cheap 45 point forwards on the WW for less than $1M salary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRA View Post
    I have Ovi in a salary cap league... received a few floater offers.... one includes Getting Simmonds and Schenn plus a spec (TBD later) and a 1st

    League stats G A P PP +- HITS


    those two guys enough plus the futures?
    I'd take that offer considering your league setup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jouko-Pouko View Post
    Simmonds and Schenn are about $9.1M combined while Ovie alone is $9.5M. Simmonds and Schenn can probably score a combined 110-120 points while Ovie probably gets 65-75, so the WW add would need to score 45 points for league minimum salary, and still the Simmonds/Schenn side would be better because they'd be a bit cheaper.

    Ovie is definitely overpaid with your stats, so the only question is - how valuable is cap space in your league? And do you have cheap 45 point forwards on the WW for less than $1M salary?

    waiver wire is weak... could attempt to grab Hartnell, Sharp etc guys like that but they won't get to me. i may get him to retain 2 mill on schenn to complete deal.
    C: Giroux, Johansen, Schenn
    LW: Forseberg, J Hockey, Patch
    RW: Tara, Radulov, Toffoli
    D: Josi, Werenski,
    Ghost, Keith
    F: Coyle, Ehlers,
    Tkatchuk
    B:
    Konency, Rantanen, Hartnell, Gallagher, Spezza
    G: Price, Bishop






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    Quote Originally Posted by JRA View Post
    waiver wire is weak... could attempt to grab Hartnell, Sharp etc guys like that but they won't get to me. i may get him to retain 2 mill on schenn to complete deal.
    Is that $2M for one year or every year he has left in his contract? Either way, that would make this deal even better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jouko-Pouko View Post
    Is that $2M for one year or every year he has left in his contract? Either way, that would make this deal even better.

    yeah 1 year which helps a ton... waiting to hear back from the GM
    C: Giroux, Johansen, Schenn
    LW: Forseberg, J Hockey, Patch
    RW: Tara, Radulov, Toffoli
    D: Josi, Werenski,
    Ghost, Keith
    F: Coyle, Ehlers,
    Tkatchuk
    B:
    Konency, Rantanen, Hartnell, Gallagher, Spezza
    G: Price, Bishop






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