Stuntman's 2017/18 Top 31 goalies w/proj

[StuntMan12]

Spent the last couple hours researching about teams and goalies and line combos. I made some projections for teams next season and made projections for each starting goalie for wins/sv%/shut-outs. By using our point system (win = 2 pts, OTL = 1 pt, SO = 1 pt) these are the top 31 point getters - note I didn't project any OTL but I will add them in for my final fantasy hockey guide which will include top 300 forwards, top 150 deence, top 31 goalies for 2017/18 season. So in reality these numbers should be higher since each goalie should have some OTL points but here is my rankings so far. Let me know what your thoughts on this are? thanks

*note the number in the commas are projected number of starts

Stuntman's 2017/18 Top 31 goalies

1. Braden Holtby (WAS) 89 pts
2. Cam Talbot (EDM) 85 pts
3. Devan Dubnyk (MIN) 79 pts
4. Sergei Bobrovsky (CBJ) 77 pts
5. Martin Jones (SJ) 77 pts
6. Tuuka Rask (BOS)76 pts
7. Ben Bishop (DAL) 74 pts
8. Jonathan Quick (LAK) 73 pts
9. Corey Crawford (CHI) 73 pts
10. Carey Price (MTL) 72 pts
11. Jake Allen (STL) 72 pts
12. Matt Murray (PIT) 71 pts
13. Andrei Vasilevsky (TBL) 69 pts
14. Frederick Andersen (TOR) 68 pts
15. Henrik Lundqvist (NYR) 67 pts
16. Craig Anderson (OTT) 66 pts
17. Pekka Rinne (NSH) 64 pts
18. Robin Lehner (BUF) 62 pts
19. John Gibson (ANA) 61 pts
20. Steve Mason (WPG) 59 pts
21. Mike Smith (CGY) 59 pts
22. Marc-Andre Fluery (VGK) 58 pts
23. Thomas Greiss (NYI) 54 pts
24. Semyon Varlamov (COL) 53 pts
25. Cory Schnieder (NJ) 48 pts
26. Antti Raanta (ARI) 47 pts
27. Brian Elliot (PHI) 46 pts
28. Cam Ward (CAR) 45 pts
29. Jacob Markstrom (VAN) 45 pts
30. Roberto Luongo (FLA) 45 pts
31. Petr Mrazek (DET) 44 pts

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*the number in the commas are projected starts*

EASTERS CONFERENCE

1. Washington Capitals Braden Holtby (65) 41 wins / .923 SV% / 7 SO Philipp Grubauer (17)
2. Pittsburgh Penguins Matt Murray (55) 34 wins / .922 SV% / 3 SO Antti Niemi (27)
3. Tampa Bay Lightning Andrei Vasilevsky (55) 33 wins / .918 SV% / 3 SO Peter Budaj (27)
4. Columbus Blue Jackets Sergei Bobrovsky (62) 36 wins / .924 SV% / 5 SO Joonas Korpisalo (20)
5. New York Rangers Henrik Lundqvist (58) 32 wins / .914 SV% / 3 SO Ondrej Pavelec (24)
6. Boston Bruins Tuuka Rask (65) 35 wins / .916 SV% / 6 SO Anton Khudobin (17)
7. Ottawa Senators Craig Anderson (60) 31 wins / .920 SV% / 4 SO Mike Condon (22)
8. Toronto Maple Leafs Frederik Andersen (65) 32 wins / .919 SV% / 4 SO Curtis McElhinney (17)
9. Montreal Canadiens Carey Price (62) 34 wins / .924 SV% / 4 SO Al Montoya (20)
10. Buffalo Sabres Robin Lehner (60) 30 wins / .921 SV% / 2 SO Chad Johnson (22)
11. Carolina Hurricanes Cam Ward (45) 22 wins / .905 SV% / 1 SO Scott Darling (37)
12. New York Islanders Thomas Greiss (55) 26 wins / .915 SV% / 2 SO Jaroslav Halak (27)
13. Florida Panthers Roberto Luongo (45) 22 wins / .915 SV% / 1 SO James Reimer (37)
14. Detroit Red Wings Petr Mrazek (50) 21 wins / .910 SV% / 2 SO Jimmy Howard (32)
15. Philadelphia Flyers Brian Elliot (50) 20 wins / .912 SV% / 2 SO Michal Neuvirth (32)
16. New Jersey Devils Cory Schneider (60) 23 wins / .914 SV% / 2 SO Keith Kinkaid (22)

Western Conference

1. Chicago Blackhawks Corey Crawford (57) 35 wins / .919 SV% / 3 SO Anton Forsberg (25)
2. Edmonton Oilers Cam Talbot (68) 40 wins / .918 SV% / 5 SO Laurent Brossoit (14)
3. San Jose Sharks Martin Jones (65) 36 wins / .915 SV% / 5 SO Aaron Dell (17)
4. Dallas Stars Ben Bishop (58) 35 wins / .916 SV% / 4 SO Kari Lehtonen (24)
5. Minnesota Wild Devan Dubnyk (65) 37 wins / .920 SV% / 5 SO Alex Stalock (17)
6. St. Louis Blues Jake Allen (62) 34 wins / .918 SV% / 4 SO Carter Hutton (20)
7. Nashville Predators Pekka Rinne (60) 31 wins / .918 SV% / 2 SO Jusse Saros (22)
8. Anaheim Ducks John Gibson (55) 28 wins / .923 SV% / 5 SO Ryan Miller (27)
9. Los Angeles Kings Jonathan Quick (65) 35 wins / .918 SV% / 3 SO Darcy Kuemper (17)
10. Winnipeg Jets Steve Mason (50) 28 wins / .914 SV% / 3 SO Connor Hellebuyck (32)
11. Calgary Flames Mike Smith (55) 28 wins / .914 SV% / 3 SO Eddie Lack (27)
12. Arizona Coyotes Antti Raanta (45) 22 wins / .910 SV% / 3 SO Louis Domingue (37)
13. Vegas Golden Knights Marc-Andre Fluery (55) 28 wins / .914 SV% / 2 SO Calvin Pickard (27)
14. Vancouver Canucks Jacob Markstrom (50) 22 wins / .915 SV% / 1 SO Anders Nilsson (32)
15. Colorado Avalanche Semyon Varlamov (58) 27 wins / .912 SV% / 1 SO Jonathan Bernier (24)

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Here is my list with projected OTL which adds one point. Didn't put much science into it, just looked at their career averages and went from there. Tried to not let it effect the rankings but put it in there to have the points more realistic to what each of the top goalies got last season.

1. Braden Holtby 89 pts 7 otl = 96 pts
2. Cam Talbot 85 pts 5 otl = 90 pts
3. Devan Dubnyk 79 pts 4 otl = 83 pts
4. Martin Jones 77 pts 4 otl = 81 pts
5. Tuuka Rask 76 pts 5 otl = 81 pts
6. Sergei Bobrovsky 77 pts 3 otl = 80 pts
7. Carey Price 72 pts 5 otl = 77 pts
8. Corey Crawford 73 pts 4 otl = 77 pts
9. Ben Bishop 74 pts 2 otl = 76 pts
10. Jonathan Quick 73 pts 4 otl = 76 pts
11. Jake Allen 72 pts 4 otl = 76 pts
12. Matt Murray 71 pts 3 otl = 74 pts
13. Andrei Vasilevsky 69 pts 4 otl = 73 pts
14. Frederick Andersen 68 pts 4 otl = 72 pts
15. Henrik Lundqvist 67 pts 4 otl = 71 pts
16. Craig Anderson 66 pts 4 otl = 70 pts
17. Pekka Rinne 64 pts 5 otl = 69 pts
18. John Gibson 61 pts 7 otl = 68 pts
19. Robin Lehner 62 pts 5 otl = 67 pts
20. Steve Mason 59 pts 5 otl = 64 pts
21. Mike Smith 59 pts 5 otl = 64 pts
22. Marc-Andre Fluery 58 pts 5 otl = 63 pts
23. Thomas Greiss 54 pts 3 otl = 57 pts
24. Semyon Varlamov 53 pts 3 otl = 56 pts
25. Cory Schnieder 48 pts 5 otl = 53 pts
26. Antti Raanta 47 pts 3 otl = 50 pts
27. Brian Elliot 46 pts 3 otl = 49 pts
28. Cam Ward 45 pts 2 otl = 47 pts
29. Jacob Markstrom 45 pts 2 otl = 47 pts
30. Roberto Luongo 45 pts 2 otl = 47 pts
31. Petr Mrazek 44 pts 2 otl = 46 pts

[FinnishFlash]

Good list, thanks for sharing

[Spinorama514]

Nice one, I have Bishop and Vasilevskiy, going to be a tough call on who to start when the season starts.

[NikW71]

A few thoughts

- Don't see any situation other than injury where Ward is the starter over Darling. $ talks and there is an unquestionable divide in talent
- Think you are undervaluing Andersen and Price. Toronto (not a fan) is going to continue its ascension up the standings and Price is still Price.

All in all not a bad list. Keep working on it!

[SuperMario]

I drafted Talbot in my dynasty's mason draft and paid a hefty price to upgrade Schneider into Holtby. Loving this list lol

[Axeman33]

The fact that you have Mrazek on there and not Jimmy Howard is an oversight IMO. There's a reason they protected Howard and left Mrazek exposed.

Same for Darling and Ward. Darling coming in will be the starter in Carolina and I believe a pretty good one.

I also believe this is the year that Luongo starts to take a backseat to Reimer.

I wouldn't even have Varlamov in the top 31 as I think some sharetime goalies will be a better option than Varlamov.

I can also see Schneider climbing back to relevance this year.

Just my opinions. Always fun to read someone elses.

[StuntMan12]

I'll admit that this is the first time i really took the time and projected goalies and in the past years when i drafted them I just went with one of the worst in the league and bought high on forwards. Am going to continue to work on this list to make it better and not just commit 100% of my time on forwards. One thing I DO know is I live and die by the lists I make, have had 2 successful years in a row and know I couldn't have done it without the help of you guys.

Thanks for the input


*just for reference these are the top 30 goalies from last year if you use the same scoring system as my league (win=2 pts, otl=1pt, so=1pt)

1. Holtby 99
2. Talbot 99
3. Bobrovsky 94
4. Dubnyk 90
5. Rask 89
6. Andersen (TOR) 85
7. Price 83
8. Jones 78
9. Allen 76
10. Murray 74
11. Rinne 74
12. Crawford 71
13. Budaj 71
14. Lundqvist 69
15. Ward 67
16. Gibson 66
17. Mason 64
18. Greiss 61
19. Anderson (OTT) 60
20. Hellebuyck 60
21. Elliot 57
22. Vasilevsky 57
23. Lehner 57
24. Lehtonen 55
25. Schnieder 53
26. Smith 50
27. Condon 49
28. Bernier 48
29. Mrazek 46
30. Miller 46

[butch]

my nyi colored glasses say if Halak stays with islanders he reclaims #1a spot so I'd basically switch him with your Greiss spot .

[Eskimo Brother]

The fact that you have Mrazek on there and not Jimmy Howard is an oversight IMO. There's a reason they protected Howard and left Mrazek exposed.

Same for Darling and Ward. Darling coming in will be the starter in Carolina and I believe a pretty good one.

I also believe this is the year that Luongo starts to take a backseat to Reimer.

I wouldn't even have Varlamov in the top 31 as I think some sharetime goalies will be a better option than Varlamov.

I can also see Schneider climbing back to relevance this year.

Just my opinions. Always fun to read someone elses.

I found myself wanted to say all of these points here before Axe covered them, so thanks for saving me the time and typing it out
It was surprising that you didn't have Price in the top 5, but nothing is impossible

[StuntMan12]

I found myself wanted to say all of these points here before Axe covered them, so thanks for saving me the time and typing it out
It was surprising that you didn't have Price in the top 5, but nothing is impossible

With montreal limiting his starts and montreal not having that strong of a team and since it's it's basically a win league I find his value is a tad overrated. He finished 7th last year in pts

Are any of you guys in similar 1 year leaguess where goalies are scored like this? Win - 2pts O.T.L - 1pt SO - 1pt

I did the sv percentage projection for fun but if I was in a league that tracked sv percentage. G.A.A my rankings would be totally different but strictly basing these on my league stat categories

[cheese_cake]

Like others, surprised with where you have Darling and Mrazek.

In any event, your list is very helpful to a fellow (and less experienced) pooler like me, so thanks for sharing

[StuntMan12]

Like others, surprised with where you have Darling and Mrazek.

In any event, your list is very helpful to a fellow (and less experienced) pooler like me, so thanks for sharing

a bit of an oversight. This won't be my final copy though, just wanted to post my initial projections and seen what you guys thought about it and go from there.

[J0e Th0rnton]

This list makes me happy. In the 14 team Keep 5 league in my sig, I have Talbot and Jones and goalies are absolutely hard to get in NAHANA without overpaying.

With 6 goalie categories out of 15, over 1/3rd of your categories are being decided by 2-3 players, so there is less margin for ineptitude. Granted Jones and Talbot do not post the most sterling GAA or Sv%, but they are at least top 10-15 with above average Wins and Saves.