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    The guy wants;

    1 round pick (2nd overall)
    2nd round pick (10th overall)
    2nd round pick (16th overall)
    Tavares

    all in the regular draft, and after our 10 keepers each. The remaining available players are in the pool for that draft goes along the lines of Keller, Boeser, McAvoy, Chabot, Chispachov, Strome, DeAngelo and so on. It includes basically every prospects ready to jump in the league this year...

    He gives me;

    Patrick Laine
    Mitch Marner

    but he gives me back Tavares at the draft because of our 10 keepers for a late draft pick...

    What is the feeling around that?

    I feel that weird about it because it would be not until the 4th round of that draft that I would be able to had players in the like of Keller and so on.
    10 teams
    20 man roster - Keep 10 - 86,5$ Salary Cap
    Points only league - G(1) - A(1) - Goalie W(2) - SO (1)

    Roster:

    F- Matthews, Stamkos, Zibanejad, Kane, J.Hughes, Roslovic, Huberdeau, Cirelli, Kaprizov, Olofsson, Drouin, Puljujarvi

    D- Carlson, Lehtonen, Makar, Boqvist, Byram, K.Miller

    G- Shesterkin, Hellebuyck

    Minors:

    F- Newhook, Raymond, Podkolzin, Dach, Hoglander
    D- Romanov
    G- Sorokin, Kahkonen, Oettinger

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    Not sure I get it. You get Laine and Marner for picks and Tavares, but you are getting Tavares back anyway? If that's the case, you do this one quickly and never look back. But I am not sure about the details of this deal? Can you sum up a best case and a worst case scenario of who would the picks turn out to be?
    H2H - 16 teams - Auction (225 $ cap), cap up to 300$ after auction on any drafted player.
    Keep 3, +7$ each year. Keep 5 farm (cost 1$ to dress).[/I]

    Points (1), Defense goals (2), Powerplay Points (0.5), GWG (0.5), ShG (0.5)

    10 F 4 D 1 G 5 bench 10 farm

    F: Kucherov (41$), Pettersson (15$), Marner (29$), Wheller (55$), Landeskog (18$), Horvat (15$), Meier (16$), Fiala (1$), Beauvillier (1$), Getzlaf (1$)
    D: Barrie (17$), Fox (1$), Girard (1$), Trouba (2$)
    G: Markstrom (6$)

    Bench: Athanasiou, Granlund, Gostisbehere, Matheson, Garland

    Farm: Boldy, Gurianov, Puljujarvi, Dach, Glass, Kaprizov, Patrick, Sanheim, Tomasino, Sorokin

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    Hit accept quickly.

    Any chance he could change his mind on Tavares? I'd still do it without Tavares.
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    Even with loosing my first 3 draft picks?!?
    10 teams
    20 man roster - Keep 10 - 86,5$ Salary Cap
    Points only league - G(1) - A(1) - Goalie W(2) - SO (1)

    Roster:

    F- Matthews, Stamkos, Zibanejad, Kane, J.Hughes, Roslovic, Huberdeau, Cirelli, Kaprizov, Olofsson, Drouin, Puljujarvi

    D- Carlson, Lehtonen, Makar, Boqvist, Byram, K.Miller

    G- Shesterkin, Hellebuyck

    Minors:

    F- Newhook, Raymond, Podkolzin, Dach, Hoglander
    D- Romanov
    G- Sorokin, Kahkonen, Oettinger

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    So.....?

    1 round pick (2nd overall)
    2nd round pick (10th overall)
    2nd round pick (16th overall)

    For Laine and Marner?


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    I think this trade is a win for you (Laine and Marner are much more valuable than those picks), but your league may see as collusion if he just sends you Tavares back for free.

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    I would loose all the prospects for the first three rounds... And yes he gets Tavares and gives it back to me because of the 10 keepers that I have. The two, Laine and Marner, won't fit in my keepers...
    10 teams
    20 man roster - Keep 10 - 86,5$ Salary Cap
    Points only league - G(1) - A(1) - Goalie W(2) - SO (1)

    Roster:

    F- Matthews, Stamkos, Zibanejad, Kane, J.Hughes, Roslovic, Huberdeau, Cirelli, Kaprizov, Olofsson, Drouin, Puljujarvi

    D- Carlson, Lehtonen, Makar, Boqvist, Byram, K.Miller

    G- Shesterkin, Hellebuyck

    Minors:

    F- Newhook, Raymond, Podkolzin, Dach, Hoglander
    D- Romanov
    G- Sorokin, Kahkonen, Oettinger

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    Prospects are just that... prospects...

    Laine and Marner? Sure fire stars producing at an incredible rate for their age in the NHL.

    You hit accept and laugh ala Dr. Evil.
    H2H - 16 teams - Auction (225 $ cap), cap up to 300$ after auction on any drafted player.
    Keep 3, +7$ each year. Keep 5 farm (cost 1$ to dress).[/I]

    Points (1), Defense goals (2), Powerplay Points (0.5), GWG (0.5), ShG (0.5)

    10 F 4 D 1 G 5 bench 10 farm

    F: Kucherov (41$), Pettersson (15$), Marner (29$), Wheller (55$), Landeskog (18$), Horvat (15$), Meier (16$), Fiala (1$), Beauvillier (1$), Getzlaf (1$)
    D: Barrie (17$), Fox (1$), Girard (1$), Trouba (2$)
    G: Markstrom (6$)

    Bench: Athanasiou, Granlund, Gostisbehere, Matheson, Garland

    Farm: Boldy, Gurianov, Puljujarvi, Dach, Glass, Kaprizov, Patrick, Sanheim, Tomasino, Sorokin

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    Default Re: Trade proposition... Really?!?

    There's a lot of detail missing here for all of these players involved to not somehow end up as keepers. Please explain your league so we can all understand.


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    Default Re: Trade proposition... Really?!?

    Why is Tavares even part of this deal? Why wouldn't you just move the 3 picks for Marner or Laine before the draft and then get the other after?

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    Default Re: Trade proposition... Really?!?

    ​So why is Tavares part of the deal if he has to just give him back, very confusing, please clarify

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    10 teams league- 20 players - keep 10 - 80M$ cap hit
    points only G(1)-A(1)-Goalie W(2)- Shootout (1)

    my keepers as as of today are;

    Eichel, Seguin, Kessel, Tavares, Tkachuk, Letang, Werenski, OEM, Matt Murray, Andersen.

    We started last year without a minors bank so the prospects are available but we must put them in the regular lineup. So if I make the trade, I'm drafting my first player in the 4th round (regular draft)

    What do you think?
    10 teams
    20 man roster - Keep 10 - 86,5$ Salary Cap
    Points only league - G(1) - A(1) - Goalie W(2) - SO (1)

    Roster:

    F- Matthews, Stamkos, Zibanejad, Kane, J.Hughes, Roslovic, Huberdeau, Cirelli, Kaprizov, Olofsson, Drouin, Puljujarvi

    D- Carlson, Lehtonen, Makar, Boqvist, Byram, K.Miller

    G- Shesterkin, Hellebuyck

    Minors:

    F- Newhook, Raymond, Podkolzin, Dach, Hoglander
    D- Romanov
    G- Sorokin, Kahkonen, Oettinger

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    I would say that if there is a trade where a player is sent to one team to make things happen but then is traded back... I would suggest this is circumvention and I would not allow it. Just looks bad to me!

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    Because we must have 10 players on September 1st and all the others go for the draft on September 22nd, so if I keep Laine and Marner, I won't be a Len to keep Tavares...

    I have a side deal to for Tkachuk, and we swap our picks; 4th round pick (2nd of the round) for my 10th round (2nd of the round too)
    10 teams
    20 man roster - Keep 10 - 86,5$ Salary Cap
    Points only league - G(1) - A(1) - Goalie W(2) - SO (1)

    Roster:

    F- Matthews, Stamkos, Zibanejad, Kane, J.Hughes, Roslovic, Huberdeau, Cirelli, Kaprizov, Olofsson, Drouin, Puljujarvi

    D- Carlson, Lehtonen, Makar, Boqvist, Byram, K.Miller

    G- Shesterkin, Hellebuyck

    Minors:

    F- Newhook, Raymond, Podkolzin, Dach, Hoglander
    D- Romanov
    G- Sorokin, Kahkonen, Oettinger

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    Just hit accept already and take that damn REBUILD IN MOTION YR1 out of your signature

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