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    Keeper League has 12 teams, Each team can keep a minimum of 3 and maximum 6 players. I finished at the bottom the last 2 years due to injuries. I will be picking 2nd overall this year for the first 3 rounds (First 3 rounds is not snake) if I were to keep 3 players.

    The players I want to keep

    Jack Eichel
    Steven Stamkos
    OEL
    Rasmus Ristolainen
    Matt Murray
    Jonathan Quick

    Should I keep 3 or 6?
    Who to keep?

    The categories are:
    G: 3 A: 2.5 +/-: 0.5 PP:0.5 SH: 1 GWG: 0.5 HT: 3 Defense: 1
    Goalies
    W:4 SO:2 OTL: 1.75 Saves: 0.1 GA: -0.5

    Last year:
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    19 D keeper
    19 G keeper

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    Can you keep an amount in between?

    If so I would keep 4 players... I would keep Eichel, Stamkos, OEL and Murray.

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    I imagine if you keep 4, you surrender your 1st round pick. If you keep 5, surrender 1st and 2nd? What are your categories?

    Think it comes down to what you expect other teams to do. I would keep Stamkos, Eichel and Murray and then decide on the others based on what you'd expect to be available when you draft.

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    Keep all 6! That's a good group of players
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    This feels like it is explained really poorly, but I don't think OEL, Risto, or Quick are worth the 2nd overall in a keep 3-6 draft, so I would keep Eichel, Stamkos, and Murray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soo.righht View Post
    Keeper League has 10 teams, Each team can keep a minimum of 3 and maximum 6 players. I finished at the bottom the last 2 years due to injuries. I will be picking 2nd overall this year for the first 3 rounds (First 3 rounds is not snake) if I were to keep 3 players.

    The players I want to keep

    Jack Eichel
    Steven Stamkos
    OEL
    Rasmus Ristolainen
    Matt Murray
    Jonathan Quick

    Should I keep 3 or 6?
    Who to keep?
    Assuming your league has the standard categories I would keep Eichel, Rasmus and Murray. Points only: Eichel, Stamkos and Murray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soo.righht View Post
    Keeper League has 10 teams, Each team can keep a minimum of 3 and maximum 6 players. I finished at the bottom the last 2 years due to injuries. I will be picking 2nd overall this year for the first 3 rounds (First 3 rounds is not snake) if I were to keep 3 players.

    The players I want to keep

    Jack Eichel
    Steven Stamkos
    OEL
    Rasmus Ristolainen
    Matt Murray
    Jonathan Quick

    Should I keep 3 or 6?
    Who to keep?
    This is a bit unclear to me bit if I had to rank your players I'd go

    Eichel
    Stamkos
    OEL
    Murray
    Quick
    Ristolainen
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    Quote Originally Posted by soo.righht View Post
    Keeper League has 10 teams, Each team can keep a minimum of 3 and maximum 6 players. I finished at the bottom the last 2 years due to injuries. I will be picking 2nd overall this year for the first 3 rounds (First 3 rounds is not snake) if I were to keep 3 players.

    The players I want to keep

    Jack Eichel
    Steven Stamkos
    OEL
    Rasmus Ristolainen
    Matt Murray
    Jonathan Quick

    Should I keep 3 or 6?
    Who to keep?
    We need some information here.
    1. What do you lose for additional keepers? I'll assume its your 1st/2nd/3rd round pick.
    2. What are the categories?
    3. How many goalies are/are typically kept?

    So you keep 3 automatically. Assuming keeping 4 costs you your 1st round (2nd overall pick). We have to figure out that pick's value.
    Worst case scenario is 9 guys keep 6 = 54 + 3 from you = 57 players kept.

    So is your 4th keeper worth more than the 57th best player in the league? Without knowing categories its impossible to tell.
    If it's me I'm keeping Eichel and Stamkos for sure (barring bizarre scoring). Then I'm thinking long and hard about keeping Murray in most formats.
    OEL is probably better than the 57th best available player so I'm keeping him as well. Rasto is again probably better than the 57th/67th best player.

    Quick I'm not a huge fan.
    However, if there's a chance that a stud in the 30th range re-enters the draft pool then keeping 3 players and having the first 3 picks in the draft could be pretty attractive as well.

    In sum, how does your league work? I'm likely keeping Eichel, Stamkos, OEL, Rasto and Murray.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter9 View Post
    I imagine if you keep 4, you surrender your 1st round pick. If you keep 5, surrender 1st and 2nd? What are your categories?

    Think it comes down to what you expect other teams to do. I would keep Stamkos, Eichel and Murray and then decide on the others based on what you'd expect to be available when you draft.
    This sounds like the best advice.

    My order would also be:

    Eichel
    Stamkos
    Murray

    Do you have any idea which players might be available with your first pick if you only keep three? I can imagine they might well be better than OEL, Quick, and Risto, but I can't be sure.

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    categories? changes everything
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    Quote Originally Posted by randomscrub23 View Post
    This sounds like the best advice.

    My order would also be:

    Eichel
    Stamkos
    Murray

    Do you have any idea which players might be available with your first pick if you only keep three? I can imagine they might well be better than OEL, Quick, and Risto, but I can't be sure.
    He obviously won't know until after the keeper deadline, but at 2nd overall he could draft any of those 3 again if there was nothing better.

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    G: 3 A: 2.5 +/-: 0.5 PP:0.5 SH: 1 GWG: 0.5 HT: 3 Defense: 1
    Goalies
    W:4 SO:2 OTL: 1.75 Saves: 0.1 GA: -0.5

    Last year:
    21 F keeper
    19 D keeper
    19 G keeper

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    The defense bonus is cool, but I'm definitely going Eichel, Stamkos, Murray.

    Worst case scenario, you could get OEL or Risto back at 1.02 if there isn't anything better. I think their will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rataylor22 View Post
    The defense bonus is cool, but I'm definitely going Eichel, Stamkos, Murray.

    Worst case scenario, you could get OEL or Risto back at 1.02 if there isn't anything better. I think their will be.
    I agree with this.

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