I'm going to go with Saad pretty easily.. I am a Flyers fan and Schenn is awful 5v5- both Saad and Schenn will be good on the 1st PP.... Saad wins out for points plus minus etc
Who puts up more points next year? we don't know exactly how their both going to fit in the lineup. If Hitch was still in STL, I'ld automatically think Saad. But I'm kinda not sure.
Weekly H2H 4games/week. 14 Teams,21 Player roster+ 3 protected prospects
20 week Regular season + 3 Rounds of Playoffs
Keep 10
G+A = 1pt, Dman G+A = 1.5pt, PPG =1pt, PPA = 0.5pt, SHG = 1pt, SHA = 0.5pt, ShootoutG = 0.25pt, GWG = 1pt, Hatty = 3pt, DMan Hatty = 5pt, +/- (For D only) = +/- 0.5pt, W = 2pt, L = -1pt, OTL = 1pt, ShootoutL = 0.5pt, SO = 1pt, S = 0.1pt, GA = -0.5pt, Goalie Goal = 5pt
Each week play: 3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 3 D, 2 G
C: Stamkos, Tavares, Getzlaf, Zibanejad
LW: Schwartz, Kase, Debrusk, Dzingel
RW: Ehlers, Lindholm, Zuccarrello, Tuch
D: Letang, Burns, Krug, Edler
G: Vasilevskiy, Fleury, Saros, Domingue
Prospects: Sorokin, Kaprizov, Hart
I'm going to go with Saad pretty easily.. I am a Flyers fan and Schenn is awful 5v5- both Saad and Schenn will be good on the 1st PP.... Saad wins out for points plus minus etc
C: Giroux, Johansen, Schenn
LW: Forseberg, J Hockey, Patch
RW: Tara, Radulov, Toffoli
D: Josi, Werenski, Ghost, Keith
F: Coyle, Ehlers,Tkatchuk
B: Konency, Rantanen, Hartnell, Gallagher, Spezza
G: Price, Bishop
Schenn, he will be playing in a pretty good top 6 and is a PP stud, STL said they want to start him at C if that means up with Schwartz/Tarasenko he could be line for a much best even strength point total
14 Team (H2H Points) Dynasty League
C: McDavid, MacKinnon, Eichel, Zibanejad
LW: E.Kane, Panarin, Huberdeau, Marchand, Landeskog
RW: Rantanen, Zuccarello
D: Makar, Dahlin, Chychrun, Drysdale
G: Shesterkin, Saros, Markstrom
Prospects: Carlsson, Raty, Berggren, Miroshnichenko, Othmann, Clarke, Gulyayev, Nikishin, Wallstadt, Wolf
16 Team (H2H Points) Dynasty League
C: MacKinnon, Zibanejad, Duchene, Schenn, Johansen, Monahan, Krebs, Pageau
LW: E.Kane, Pacioretty, Vrana, Hoffman
RW: Tuch, Stone, Wilson, Batherson, Sprong, Gallagher, Wahlstrom
D: Dahlin, Hamilton, Letang, Dumba, Kylington, Liljegren
G: Allen
Prospects: Byfield, Guenther, Rossi, Perreault, Nikishin
These two are pretty close. Edge to Schenn for me. He's been flirting around 60pts for 2 consecutive years and Saad's career high (even on higher flying CHI teams) is 53 pts. Schenn will lose out on having Giroux/Voracek/Simmonds on his PP but that changes to Tarasenko/Pietrangelo and he keeps his prime locked PP1 role so I don't see his PPP dropping that much. STL actually outscored PHI 235 to 219 last season and was better on the PP (21.28% to 19.49%)
12 Team H2H Multi-Cat Keeper League - (G, A, PIM, PPP, FW, HIT, BLK, SOG, W, GAA, SV%, SO) - 15 keepers, 25 man rosters
C: Kopitar, Bergeron, Stepan
W: Benn, Kucherov, Voracek, JVR, Eberle, Steen, Hornqvist, Hoffman
C/W:
Def: Letang, Klingberg
Goal: Lundqvist, Crawford
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Saad for me. Especially if he starts to get top power play minutes a I think he will considering what Chicago gave up to get him.
12 team Keeper League.
25 man roster, 5 man bench, 2 prospects, keep 9. Must ice 4D, 1 Goalie
Skaters 1pt G/A,
Goalies .05pts per save, 1pts SO, .75pts per win -.25 for GA
Forwards
Crosby, Malkin, Seguin, Eichel, Backstrom, Svechnikov, Stone, Meier, Perron, Voracek, Wilson, Pearson, Vrana, E. Stall, Pajeau
Defence
Hedman, Klingberg, Letang, Yandle
Goalie
Bobrovsky
Bench
Ritchie (G), Zucker, Guentzel, Neal, Ekblad (D)
Prospects
Zegras, Kaprisov
My vote goes to Schenn
Keeper's league, points only, 24 teams league Skaters: 1 pt for goal and 1 pt for assist, Goalie, 2 pts for win, + 2 pts for SO
Saad for me.
I vote Saad
10 team full keeper roto 4C/LW/RW,6D,2G
G,A,P,+/-,PIM,SOG,GWG,PPP,SHP,Hit,Blk,FOW
W,GAA,SV,SV%,SHO
C-Aho,Couturier,Matthews,O'Reilly
LW-Ehlers,Giroux,Panarin,Rust
RW-Kucherov,Palmieri,Pastrnak,Wilson
D-Burns,Carlson,Gudas,Josi,Nurse,Pietrangelo
G-Fleury,F.Andersen,Markstrom
BN-Zacha
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Beaucage,Berggren,Bokk,Brisson,Chytil,Dugan,Foerst er,Foote,Frost,Grewe,K.Johnson,Lindblom,Mikheyev,N ybeck,Peterka,Pospisil,Protas,Ranta,Raty,Stankoven ,Suzuki,Tuomaala
Alexeyev,Brook,Foote,Graves,Poirier,Sanderson,Seid er,Wilde,Woo,Zamula
Berdin,Brossoit,Commesso,Ersson,Husso,Knight,Koche tkov,Lafontaine,Oettinger,Primeau,Sandstrom,Stolar z,Ustimenko,Vladar
Sorry for being lazy but I keep seeing references to Schenn's 5 on 5 production but who were his regular line mates at even strength?
if it was either Simmonds or Giroux weren't both of their points totals made up of over 50% pp points? Guess my point is that Schenn is getting hammered for his 5 on 5 production but isn't that something you can levy at all the Flyers top forwards last season?
Experience is the teacher of all things.
I would take Saad. Safer bet. If Schenn gets to center Tank for the season and sees top PP usage, he could outpoint Saad, but we don't know yet how he will be used in St Louis.
KHL Fantasy Hockey League Keep 8
3-C 3-RW 3-LW 6-D 2-G
Forward 5-G 3-A 1.0 STP
D-Men 6-G 4-A 1.5 STP
.35 Shot .4 Hit .4 Block .1 FOW
Goalie 6.5 Win .25 Save -2.5 GA 2-SO
C- Larkin, Hischer, Horvat, R. Thomas
LW- Stamkos, Hyman, Kreider, Lehkonen,
RW- Laine, Marchessault, Toffoli. Buchnevich
D- Doughty, Burns, Letang, Andersson (IR), Faulk, Toews, Pionk, Petry
G- Vasilevskiy, Copley, Andersen
I'll take Saad. He's gonna play with Toews, and will finally be getting PP time. should get around 60-65 points. I don't see that much for schenn.
GET WELL SOON, DOBBER.
saad. schenn's pp production was a product of Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Ghost. Ya he has tarasenko, but its not near the flyers pp which is always top 10.
If both had stayed with their respective teams I think I'd pick Schenn this upcoming season. Both have changed teams and I'm going with Saad, who not only knows a lot of the players in Chicago, but he knows the coach and the coach knows him. He should hit the ground running. We don't know anything about how Schenn will mesh with Stl teammates or with Yeo. The talent difference between the two seems to be minimal, you can make arguments either way and it would change year to year. So for this year, at least before we see them play actual hockey, I'm going with Saad.
12 team H2H Most Cats Wins; Keep 6/winner keeps 7; G A PPP +/- SHP SOG HIT BLK PIM // W SV GAA SV% SHO
3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 6D, 2G, 5 bench
C - McDavid, Crosby, Tavares
LW - DeBrincat
RW - Meier, Miller
D -
G - Jarry