Offered price

[Cpedersen84]

In a 16 team multicat h2h salary cap dynasty been offered price for my hedman and fleury. Seems like too much, I feel like fleury could have a big year. Thoughts? Start 2 and talbot is my other tender fwiw

[Eskimo Brother]

What's your defence like? Do you count salary, cap hit, or is it a custom cap?
On the surface without knowing more details, I don't think it's enough for Price. Steal for you.

[Cpedersen84]

actual salary, so $6.5m for price. Hedman is $7.75 I believe and lindholm is $2.7m.
I've got a solid d including Letang, jones, Carlson and Keith.

cat pts g=1.5,a,shp=1,hit,bs,pim,shot=0.1,ppp,gwg,+/-=0.5 (bonus 0.5 for dman g,a)

[newfcollins]

Sorry, but how does Lindholm get involved with this?

Anyways, I would make that deal. Why would you think Fleury is going to have a big year? He's either going to be a backup in Pittsburgh, the starter on an expansion team in Vegas, or maybe go to a team like Calgary. The odds of him having a big year is pretty low.

[Cpedersen84]

Haha my bad, too much trade talk. Ignore the lindholm part.

[als_revenge]

Would be useful to see point values in your set up for price, fleury, hedman, plus your other d men. I don't know the scoring cats for goalies, and I'm not doing all that calculating myself.

I agree with newf, though, there is nothing to suggest a big year from fleury next year. and while hedman is really good, he also has a very sizeable cap hit.

[Cpedersen84]

I put the scoring cat weights in the third post down.
Thanks guys!

[MZac]

Im pulling the trigger on this (even tho I only see skater cats in post 3 and not goalie, assuming standard goalie cats apply). Ur d can handle the depth and you end up with 2 of the top 3 dobber ranked goalies. Also, flip a coin on whether Hedman repeats what he did last year. You could look like a genius with this trade or if everything goes right for Hedman and Fleury (alot of if's out there), it looks fairly even. This is the kind of risk mitigation I look for in trades.

[Cpedersen84]

Pulled the trigger, thanks for all the input! Saves me a boatload of cap room too!
My bad, copy and pasted the cats, didn't even look to make sure the goalie cats were there.

[Sulla]

Just to take this a step further as a conversation piece but I do wonder about Hedman next season - this year was a huge season for him but was buoyed by his PP production feeding Kucherov - issue before was that he was on the wrong side to feed Stamkos one timers so if Stamkos gets up to PP1 again do we see Hedman being bumped off and a subsequent decline? Do the Bolts have a 1a and 1b on the pp and split the time which also means a decrease for Hedman - may be time to sell high....

[gooding74]

Just to take this a step further as a conversation piece but I do wonder about Hedman next season - this year was a huge season for him but was buoyed by his PP production feeding Kucherov - issue before was that he was on the wrong side to feed Stamkos one timers so if Stamkos gets up to PP1 again do we see Hedman being bumped off and a subsequent decline? Do the Bolts have a 1a and 1b on the pp and split the time which also means a decrease for Hedman - may be time to sell high....

That's definitely a thing. Hedman jumped from 11 PPP with Stamkos in the lineup in 2015-16 to 33 PPP with Stamkos out most of the year in 2016-17. Another reason to make the deal.

[BreadManPanarin]

Just to take this a step further as a conversation piece but I do wonder about Hedman next season - this year was a huge season for him but was buoyed by his PP production feeding Kucherov - issue before was that he was on the wrong side to feed Stamkos one timers so if Stamkos gets up to PP1 again do we see Hedman being bumped off and a subsequent decline? Do the Bolts have a 1a and 1b on the pp and split the time which also means a decrease for Hedman - may be time to sell high....

That's definitely a thing. Hedman jumped from 11 PPP with Stamkos in the lineup in 2015-16 to 33 PPP with Stamkos out most of the year in 2016-17. Another reason to make the deal.

Very interesting. I had not considered this angle before. Would be very surprised if Stamkos and Kucherov were not both on PP1.

[Sulla]

It's not so much whether it is Stamkos or Kucherov on PP1 - I agree in that I think they both will be but if Stamkos is the one that sets up for the one timer then having Stralman pass to him is a better option than Hedman due to handedness (is that even a word?). We regularly acknowledge the importance of pp points for production so a change in a pp system, or a change back in this instance, is also a factor.