Re: [chatter] Sens/Avs deal centered around Duchene in works?
Originally Posted by
The Iron Sheik
I'm talking about his 82 game pace, he's on pace for 55 over 82 games. That's all that matters. If he missed games then you factor that into why he is on pace for 51 this year...
I don't see how you can legitimately call 59 points last year a disappointment. He scored 30 goals. If you think that's disappointing, your valuations are way off.
55 points is not worth $4 million. It's absolutely worth $5+ million. That's the going rate these days, minimum.
2009-10: 55 points. A great rookie season.
2010-11: 67 points. Good season.
2011-12: 28 points. Bad season.
2012-13: 43 points. Great season.
2013-14: 70 points. Great season.
2014-15: 55 points. Good season
2015-16: 59 points. Great season - he scored 30 goals.
2016-17: 36 points, on pace for 51. Good season on a terrible team.
IMO, he's only had one bad season, four great seasons. Rest are good/expected.
Can we put this in perspective? those three really good seasons were great for him. They are not great, in comparison to others in the same year, or historically great. they're really good seasons - FOR HIM. A 30 goal season is not by any standards a definable 'great' year. Maybe for that specific player - okay, granted that. Grabner is having a Great year... for him - but by no other measure can his season be defined as GREAT.
Crosby is having a great year, Burns is having a great year - both within current hockey era standards qualify as historically great. Seguin is having a really good year.
Make no mistake, Duchene is a clear upgrade at C over Brassard and arguably is a better Centre than Turris. It's a really solid addition if they pull it off and it definitely makes their top 6 much more threatening. I think the person that would benefit the most from Duchene would be Bobby Ryan - a real high tempo, fast C - might just re-energize him.
But lets put context on Duchene's 'great' seasons and compare them solely to his own career and no other player... cuz I will never believe a 60pt season is a great season in any broader context
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