Laine helped off after massive hit

[Mr. Guru]

Here's a quick question.

If Scheifele jumped McCabe during a regular normal shift would he get suspended? Of course. It would be like Bertuzzi and Moore.

But since he did so after a clean and legal hit it's ok?

That's the NHL for you.

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Here's a quick question.

If Scheifele jumped McCabe during a regular normal shift would he get suspended? Of course. It would be like Bertuzzi and Moore.

But since he did so after a clean and legal hit it's ok?

That's the NHL for you.

[CascadeFilly]

That's not the NHL, Guru, that's hockey. Are you new to the game?

hf, not sure what point you're trying to make. What exactly do you want from Scheifele? It was a bad pass, so he's supposed to go to the bench and beat himself up about it, and let McCabe skate off freely? No one did anything wrong. Bad passes happen. Clean open ice hits happen. Retribution happens. This is hockey, and it's just how things work.

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That's not the NHL, Guru, that's hockey. Are you new to the game?

hf, not sure what point you're trying to make. What exactly do you want from Scheifele? It was a bad pass, so he's supposed to go to the bench and beat himself up about it, and let McCabe skate off freely? No one did anything wrong. Bad passes happen. Clean open ice hits happen. Retribution happens. This is hockey, and it's just how things work.

[Wonko]

What was he going to do? Skate away and pout?

Right or wrong, you stick up for your teammates.

Same with family and your kids. 100% unconditional.

Agreed. And I might add, that Sheifele's pass was poor, but the same type of pass happens game in and game out. It is up to the receiving player to have his head up.

[Mr. Guru]

That's not the NHL, Guru, that's hockey. Are you new to the game?

If you don't think hockey has changed in the last 20, 10 or even 5 years......I don't know what to say?

Head shots are now illegal, concussion protocols, etc.

No need to jump someone over a clean hit. That time has passed. Consequences should be given for shit like that. Again, imagine Scheif did that on a normal play? Whats the difference? Horrible.

[CascadeFilly]

The code hasn't changed that much, Guru. Most teams would have done the same, and if it wasn't Scheifele, it would have been another Jet. That wasn't going unpunished, clean or not.

[Godin]

As much as that was a clean hit, Laine was in a vulnerable position and those are hits that don't go over well with teammates. It's more the optics. I would have jumped McCabe also just because of that even though I may have made the same hit. Hypocrytical maybe, but natural.

[ericdaoust]

There's always going to be reactions to a hit on a key player (can happen in other sports too) but NHL players are brainwashed to react way over the top to these things.

[Mr. Guru]

I would have jumped McCabe too.

Thats not to say I shouldn't have to suffer the consequences.

I don't believe a 2 min roughing call does justice.

But I guess I'm in the minority.

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I would have jumped McCabe too.

Thats not to say I shouldn't have to suffer the consequences.

I don't believe a 2 min roughing call does justice.

But I guess I'm in the minority.

[Luffy D Monkey]

He saw his teammate get laid out unconscious, any good teammate would have jumped the guy. I dont have a problem with it at all. The guys is trying to protect a kid.

[Shift Disturber]

Concussion - it's official:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/j...ed-concussion/

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Concussion - it's official:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jets-forward-patrik-laine-diagnosed-concussion/

[Mr. Guru]

Thats fine and dandy.

But it should be more than 2 min roughing penalty.

I'm a fan of black and white calls.

If someone jumps another player, regardless of what happened before, the punishment should be the same. No?

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[markpiel]

I'm surprised there's so much talk on this board about Schiefele's pass. It's a perfectly ok pass to make when breaking out of the zone with the speed they had going. What was unusual about the circumstances was McCabe was completely out of position being on the wrong side of centre and that large a gap between him and his defence partner with that much speed coming up the ice.

It worked out for McCabe but if you watch the replays you'll see Ristolainen (?) had backed over centre anticipating the rush up the ice. That's the position you'd expect the Sabres defender to be in, not wandering around in no-man's land at centre ice. Nobody exiting the defensive zone and making or receiving a pass up ice would expect the opposing defenceman (McCabe) to be in that position. Laine got belted with a clean hit but just because the hit was clean doesn't mean that someone else (the guy making the pass) is to blame. It's a fast game. Some events happen that can't be avoided and result in a guy being hurt. In normal life they're called accidents.

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I'm surprised there's so much talk on this board about Schiefele's pass. It's a perfectly ok pass to make when breaking out of the zone with the speed they had going. What was unusual about the circumstances was McCabe was completely out of position being on the wrong side of centre and that large a gap between him and his defence partner with that much speed coming up the ice.

It worked out for McCabe but if you watch the replays you'll see Ristolainen (?) had backed over centre anticipating the rush up the ice. That's the position you'd expect the Sabres defender to be in, not wandering around in no-man's land at centre ice. Nobody exiting the defensive zone and making or receiving a pass up ice would expect the opposing defenceman (McCabe) to be in that position. Laine got belted with a clean hit but just because the hit was clean doesn't mean that someone else (the guy making the pass) is to blame. It's a fast game. Some events happen that can't be avoided and result in a guy being hurt. In normal life they're called accidents.

[horrorfan]

If I was Scheifele I would have gone straight to Laine to see if he was ok. But I'm in the minority so that's fine.

[CascadeFilly]

That's a great post, Mark, and in fact, this was echoed by Maurice. He was asked about the pass, and he said it was a good pass: flat, on the stick, not in the skates or behind Laine, and the vast majority of the time, this hit wouldn't happen, due to the speed through the neutral zone. Maurice also made a point of saying that he had no problem with the hit, and that he appreciated Scheifele's actions. Again, no one did anything wrong.

I agree about the hit happening primarily because of poor defensive positioning. If Laine evades that hit, there's a high probability that the Jets score, or at least get an odd-man rush at high speed.

hf, Scheifele isn't a doctor, so he, like most players would, let the trainer help Laine, while he took care of other business. Scheifele is future captain material, and in my opinion, you want to see this from your leaders.

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That's a great post, Mark, and in fact, this was echoed by Maurice. He was asked about the pass, and he said it was a good pass: flat, on the stick, not in the skates or behind Laine, and the vast majority of the time, this hit wouldn't happen, due to the speed through the neutral zone. Maurice also made a point of saying that he had no problem with the hit, and that he appreciated Scheifele's actions. Again, no one did anything wrong.

I agree about the hit happening primarily because of poor defensive positioning. If Laine evades that hit, there's a high probability that the Jets score, or at least get an odd-man rush at high speed.

hf, Scheifele isn't a doctor, so he, like most players would, let the trainer help Laine, while he took care of other business. Scheifele is future captain material, and in my opinion, you want to see this from your leaders.

[horrorfan]

hf, Scheifele isn't a doctor, so he, like most players would, let the trainer help Laine, while he took care of other business. Scheifele is future captain material, and in my opinion, you want to see this from your leaders.

Fair enough.

Anyway, the most important thing is that Laine recovers quickly.