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    From another forum reader. I decided to shop Matthews and I got another offer:

    Huberdeau/Hoffman and Lindholm/S.Reinhart
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    or other offer of:

    Gaudreau for Matthews (straight up)

    I may counter first off with

    Huberdeau and M.Reilly for Austin
    or
    Eichel and Reilly for Austin and Yandle (this one may be a stretch)
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    LW - Landeskog, Robertson, E. Kane, Guentzel, Huberdeau, Kreider, Schwartz (C/RW)
    C - Stamkos, Zibanijad, Wright, Norris, Seguin (RW), Larkin, Zegras, Zary
    RW - Rantanen, Olofsson, Kuzmenko (LW), Sharangovich (LW/C), Laine, Arvidsson (LW)
    D - M. Anderson, Josi, S. Jones, Toews, Theodore, Faber, , Korchinski, Zellweger, Mintyukov, Larsson, H. Lindholm, K. Miller
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    Both original trades would vastly improve your LWs. How many players do you keep?

    EDIT: sorry read the first trade as Hubs and Hoff for Matthews...therefore it would still help your LW, but not as much now
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    I would trade Matthews for Gaudreau in a heartbeat

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    Gaudreau is the only deal here I would consider, unless you see Eichel as an improvement over Matthews. Any chance you could add a little to that one, or is that a final offer?
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    Here's my take in order:

    - Gaudreau for Matthews: YES but only because you need a LW

    - Eichel and Reilly for Matthews and Yandle: YES, fair trade and I prefer the upside you will receive

    - Huberdeau/Hoffman and Lindholm/S.Reinhart for Matthews: NO, unless you get the optimal combination and as it stands, there is no certainty that any of those 4 guys will fully pan out/continue their trend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bass56 View Post
    Here's my take in order:

    - Gaudreau for Matthews: YES but only because you need a LW

    - Eichel and Reilly for Matthews and Yandle: YES, fair trade and I prefer the upside you will receive

    - Huberdeau/Hoffman and Lindholm/S.Reinhart for Matthews: NO, unless you get the optimal combination and as it stands, there is no certainty that any of those 4 guys will fully pan out/continue their trend.
    Thanks Bass. Great synopsis of the offers. I'm sure the Huberdeau offer can be a combination of any that I'd prefer.

    As for LW, a bunch of guys just received dual position status (Forsberg is also now a LW along with Fabri and Buchnevich)
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    LW - Landeskog, Robertson, E. Kane, Guentzel, Huberdeau, Kreider, Schwartz (C/RW)
    C - Stamkos, Zibanijad, Wright, Norris, Seguin (RW), Larkin, Zegras, Zary
    RW - Rantanen, Olofsson, Kuzmenko (LW), Sharangovich (LW/C), Laine, Arvidsson (LW)
    D - M. Anderson, Josi, S. Jones, Toews, Theodore, Faber, , Korchinski, Zellweger, Mintyukov, Larsson, H. Lindholm, K. Miller
    G - Andersen, Gustavsson, Saros, Vejmelka

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeeps View Post
    I'm sure the Huberdeau offer can be a combination of any that I'd prefer.
    My combination would be Hubs and Reinhart but I still think it falls short of the eliteness you'd be sending the other way. When you say that the combination can be ''any that you'd prefer'', do you mean that you can swap out players and add different ones?

    If so, who would they be? FWIW, Huberdeau is the top dog from that list although his perceived value is lower due to his injury.
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    D- Carlson, Rielly, Klingberg
    G- Hellebuyck, Demko, Merzlikins, Vejmelka

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    F: Fantilli, Cooley, Bourgault, Perreault, Cowan, Ohgren, N. Foote, Goyette, Iskhakov, Denisenko, Tracey
    D: Simashev, Willander, Lambos
    G: Schmidt, Rodrigue, DiPietro, Gaudreau, McKay

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    make the swap for Gaudreau!!

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    The Gaudreau trade I'd consider but not with as much Gusto as others here. Matthews will be very good...so much so that I think he's going to be very close to JG in points next yr if not this year. Both teams are going to be exciting to watch.

    IF you can somehow manage to get an add I'd make that trade.
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    What if I got the manager to add Killorn to Gaudreau?
    10 team keeper league dress 4 LW, C, RW, 6 Def and 2 Goalies (gls and asts are a pt for fwds and 1.5 for Def, as is a +, but also -1 for a - forwards and -1 for "D", G - 2 pts for win, 5 for SO and pts for saves)
    LW - Landeskog, Robertson, E. Kane, Guentzel, Huberdeau, Kreider, Schwartz (C/RW)
    C - Stamkos, Zibanijad, Wright, Norris, Seguin (RW), Larkin, Zegras, Zary
    RW - Rantanen, Olofsson, Kuzmenko (LW), Sharangovich (LW/C), Laine, Arvidsson (LW)
    D - M. Anderson, Josi, S. Jones, Toews, Theodore, Faber, , Korchinski, Zellweger, Mintyukov, Larsson, H. Lindholm, K. Miller
    G - Andersen, Gustavsson, Saros, Vejmelka

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    Gaudreau is a fair offer, but who trades the shiniest object in the store for fair? Agreed it improves your LW, but Drouin, FF & JVR aren't bad to have either.

    If he wants Matthews make him add, or keep the kid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeeps View Post
    What if I got the manager to add Killorn to Gaudreau?
    Killorn in your format is just a filler; no real value. Don't be fooled by his current point pace; he will end up in the 0.5ppg category or with 45-50 points AT BEST.
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    W- Forsberg, Batherson, Nichuskin, Tuch, Konecny, Maccelli, Sharangovich, Bertuzzi, Kaliyev, Neighbours, Reichel
    D- Carlson, Rielly, Klingberg
    G- Hellebuyck, Demko, Merzlikins, Vejmelka

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    G: Schmidt, Rodrigue, DiPietro, Gaudreau, McKay

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    10 team keeper league dress 4 LW, C, RW, 6 Def and 2 Goalies (gls and asts are a pt for fwds and 1.5 for Def, as is a +, but also -1 for a - forwards and -1 for "D", G - 2 pts for win, 5 for SO and pts for saves)
    LW - Landeskog, Robertson, E. Kane, Guentzel, Huberdeau, Kreider, Schwartz (C/RW)
    C - Stamkos, Zibanijad, Wright, Norris, Seguin (RW), Larkin, Zegras, Zary
    RW - Rantanen, Olofsson, Kuzmenko (LW), Sharangovich (LW/C), Laine, Arvidsson (LW)
    D - M. Anderson, Josi, S. Jones, Toews, Theodore, Faber, , Korchinski, Zellweger, Mintyukov, Larsson, H. Lindholm, K. Miller
    G - Andersen, Gustavsson, Saros, Vejmelka

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    take Gaudreau and run; Matthews has never played more than 36 games in a season he will slow down significantly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuigiC173 View Post
    take Gaudreau and run; Matthews has never played more than 36 games in a season he will slow down significantly.
    I countered with My Matthews and Yandle for his Gaudreau and Draisaitl
    10 team keeper league dress 4 LW, C, RW, 6 Def and 2 Goalies (gls and asts are a pt for fwds and 1.5 for Def, as is a +, but also -1 for a - forwards and -1 for "D", G - 2 pts for win, 5 for SO and pts for saves)
    LW - Landeskog, Robertson, E. Kane, Guentzel, Huberdeau, Kreider, Schwartz (C/RW)
    C - Stamkos, Zibanijad, Wright, Norris, Seguin (RW), Larkin, Zegras, Zary
    RW - Rantanen, Olofsson, Kuzmenko (LW), Sharangovich (LW/C), Laine, Arvidsson (LW)
    D - M. Anderson, Josi, S. Jones, Toews, Theodore, Faber, , Korchinski, Zellweger, Mintyukov, Larsson, H. Lindholm, K. Miller
    G - Andersen, Gustavsson, Saros, Vejmelka

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