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    A guy in my league has been tying to get McDavid from me for a week now. We've been shooting offers back and fourth, and he just turned down an offer that would have me sending McDavid for Seguin, Klingberg, Marner and Provorov.

    He just sent me a counter offer.. My McDavid and 18th overall pick (rookie only draft) for his Seguin,Klingberg and Provorov.. Do I pull the trigger or hold?

    He has players like Pickard, Dumba, Kyle Connor, Meier, Crouse, and Vesey that I could try to add to the end to make things work because i feel as though we're getting close on a deal.

    I traded Gaudreau, Jake Allen and Domi for McDavid to begin with at the start of last season if that's any kind of factor.
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    Try McDavid and #18 for Seguin, Klingberg Connor and Provorov.

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    That is already a terrific offer....Seguin is what you hope McDavid to ve....you get a 55+ pt dman, and an elite d prospect. Very fair offer in your favor
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    If you can squeeze a prospect out of the deal as well I have absolutely no issues with this deal (though granted I am one of the few that would actually trade !cDavid anyway)
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    If he truly wants McDavid (who wouldn't), you shouldn't have to add anything to him to make a deal. Remember, he's chasing you, not the other way around.

    I'd tell him if he wants the pick in there, then you want someone like Kyle Connor or Timo Meier in the deal as well. If he whines about that, then you still own McDavid. Nothing wrong with that.
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    Marner needs to be there or walk
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    Tell him Kyle Connor is in the deal and if not just say *hangs up phone*

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoNucks View Post
    That is already a terrific offer....Seguin is what you hope McDavid to ve....you get a 55+ pt dman, and an elite d prospect. Very fair offer in your favor
    Normally I would've said something like this, but the fact that he has approached you means that you should be squeezing out a tiny bit more in this trade. Connor or Meier would be the guys I'd be targeting too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Glatt View Post
    Try McDavid and #18 for Seguin, Klingberg Connor and Provorov.
    This.........i would prefer marner over connor but you need that top notch prospect in there. Thats the price if he isnt wiling to pay it then he can take a walk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triplea14 View Post
    Marner needs to be there or walk
    Agreed 100%. The deal looks GOOD but should be GREAT and a no-brainer in you're going to deal Macky D. You need an overpayment and without Marner, the deal (which is FAIR) wouldn't be sweet enough if I were you.
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    The guy is saying now that he can do Provorov and Meier OR DeAngelo and Connor but he can't do Provorov and Connor.. And he wants my first round pick (6th overall)

    So the new deal would be McDavid and 6th Overall rookie pick for his Seguin, Klingberg, and either Provorov/Meier or DeAngelo/Connor.

    Any thoughts? Stumped now.
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    This is when you say thank you and goodbye.

    I hate when guys desperately want someone and they come to you to get him. But then they try and dictate and control the situation. NO DEAL. He wants someone you tell him what you want and he gives it.

    He has absolutely no leverage in this situation unless you give it to him.

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    Seguin Klingburg Provorov and marner for mcdavid and 18th thats it (at least for me it is)
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyers0101 View Post
    The guy is saying now that he can do Provorov and Meier OR DeAngelo and Connor but he can't do Provorov and Connor.. And he wants my first round pick (6th overall)

    So the new deal would be McDavid and 6th Overall rookie pick for his Seguin, Klingberg, and either Provorov/Meier or DeAngelo/Connor.

    Any thoughts? Stumped now.
    Tell him thanks for the talks and you are going to keep McDavid. Remember, just because you engaged in trade talks doesn't mean you have to make a trade. You are allowed to walk away.
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    He has the lesser asset but he's putting the squeeze on you... I like this GM lol

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    Hard to analyze this offer without knowing how many starters at each position, and daily/weekly changes.

    You already have 6 very strong D - hard to say how much "extra" you get from adding Klingberg.

    You appear to be weakest (relatively speaking) at goalie - no coincidence, as Allen was part of the package for McDavid in the first place.

    Without knowing more details, it's possible your team will not be any better off from this trade. And with this trade, you might even be worse off compared to your team before you acquired McDavid.

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