McDavid for Johnny Gaudreau and Jack Eichel

[Crazy Joe Davola]

Well, I had figured I'd keep this one low-key and not consult the whole forum, but I'm having a difficult time processing this potential monster of a deal.

His Johnny Hockey, Jack Eichel and one of Kyle Connor or David Pastrnak for my McDavid.

We're a Points, +/-, PPP and shorthanded goal category league that keeps 17 of 23 roster spots and start eight forwards per week. If I make the deal, it transforms my starting lineup from:

McDavid
Kane
Benn
Ovechkin
Kopitar
Kessel
Thornton
Hornqvist
***
With R. Strome as my first bench player pre-draft. Guys to potentially target in the draft to fill reserve slots would be Tyler Ennis, Justin Williams, Alex Wennberg...

Post Trade:

Kane
Benn
Ovechkin
Gaudreau
Kopitar
Eichel
Kessel
Thornton
***
Horny
Connor/Pasta
Draft dudes.

Definitely makes my forward depth better and adds to filling future keeper slots as Thornton pushes closer to 40. I'd be dropping Strome in all likelihood if I make the deal, or more preferably, dishing him for pick(s) before the keeper lock date in two weeks.

I love the idea of getting two young likely top 10 scorers, with both having the potential to break into the top five, especially Eichel.

I realize that if McDavid ends up being a 120 point getter, that I'll be hoping to break even, but if all three big fish hit their potential then aggregate points-in vs out will be a win for me.. and they're all pretty sure bets minus the third piece (Pasta/Connor) coming back to me.

It seems to me like a fair deal which may mean its not enough to trade a 19-year-old McDavid who of all players demands an overpay.

What are your thoughts?

Rep. Rep.

[PenguinHunter]

I would say the deal is fair for sure... but with McDavid... majority of the trades I have seen have been overpayments. I would sit tight and wait for someone to offer you something that you do not have to think about.

His hype is only going to increase when he starts out the season on fire and is at 85+ point pace at after 1 months period.

I would suggest that you would be selling low on McDavid if you were to trade him right now for anything that is not an overpayment!

[Sulla]

I actually really the deal for you TBH... Agreed that I have seen better returns on McDavid but this fits TBH

[Crazy Joe Davola]

I would say the deal is fair for sure... but with McDavid... majority of the trades I have seen have been overpayments. I would sit tight and wait for someone to offer you something that you do not have to think about.

His hype is only going to increase when he starts out the season on fire and is at 85+ point pace at after 1 months period.

I would suggest that you would be selling low on McDavid if you were to trade him right now for anything that is not an overpayment!

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I actually really the deal for you TBH... Agreed that I have seen better returns on McDavid but this fits TBH

This is pretty much my running subconscious the last few days as I toy with the idea of this trade. Part of me likes the deal and think it's a good fit for my squad. Another part of me thinks I'd be selling myself short on the best asset out there, before he even sniffs his peak.

I'm a wheeler and dealer by nature so this isn't foreign ground for me, but McDavid is that rare breed that almost demands some commitment.

[Sulla]

Asset management - you know what you possibly could get a better deal for McDavid bbbbuuuttttttt if you were to flip Gadreau and Eichel in separate deals I think you'd actual get more again (asset stripping at its finest)

[Crazy Joe Davola]

Asset management - you know what you possibly could get a better deal for McDavid bbbbuuuttttttt if you were to flip Gadreau and Eichel in separate deals I think you'd actual get more again (asset stripping at its finest)

That's an interesting way to look at it. And knowing my love of always trying to improve via the trade, that's something I could look at doing down the road.

I love the idea of grabbing Gaudreau and Eichel as they'll be hitting their prime years of 21-24 right away and youth is valued soooo heavily in my league that you're right, their value on the market would be sky-high. `

Not bad Sulla. Not bad

[Sulla]

It's not about winning the battle it's about winning the war

[fantasy junkie]

Although that is a fair offer I would sit tight. If you announced to your league that McDavid was available and listened to all offers I would bet anything you'd end up with a better offer. This is a fair offer, not an overpayment, which is the norm now for McDavid.

I get that you like to wheel and deal and the thrill of the trade can be exciting but your team is ridiculous to begin with. You are going to be difficult to beat with the forwards you currently have so I'd start the season with your team intact and see how things go. If you feel like you need to make a move to be competitive then I think that would be a better time.

[markpiel]

That offer isn't enough for McDavid. I wouldn't do it. Frankly, I wouldn't trade McDavid, period.

[Crazy Joe Davola]

Although that is a fair offer I would sit tight. If you announced to your league that McDavid was available and listened to all offers I would bet anything you'd end up with a better offer. This is a fair offer, not an overpayment, which is the norm now for McDavid.

I get that you like to wheel and deal and the thrill of the trade can be exciting but your team is ridiculous to begin with. You are going to be difficult to beat with the forwards you currently have so I'd start the season with your team intact and see how things go. If you feel like you need to make a move to be competitive then I think that would be a better time.

Very fair points and much appreciated.

I've contacted the few teams that have the multiple assets needed to make a move like this, the current one is the best I've received. I realize that just because it's the best I've gotten doesn't mean I should take it though.

[Crazy Joe Davola]

That offer isn't enough for McDavid. I wouldn't do it. Frankly, I wouldn't trade McDavid, period.

If there ever were a player not to trade, I'll admit it would be him. That said, I'm firmly entrenched on the side that I'll trade anyone if the price is right and it improves my team.

No allegiances here.

[lord.numskull]

Tough when you're fighting the fan factor too. Having 'the' McDavid on your team makes it all the more interesting watching his career take off.

But with 17 keepers, you do need some depth, so I would consider it.

[Noddes55]

I don't think it's a bad offer at all. I am a huge fan of depth myself tho. I just look at it as Johnny and jack going to be 75pt players for next 10 yrs minimum. What's the ceiling on mcdavid? 100-110. Plus you also get a younger prospect to go along with it. I would def counter and try to squeeze more out of him. If he feels he's close to getting mcdavid he may just give you a blank cheque to get it done.

[Crazy Joe Davola]

Tough when you're fighting the fan factor too. Having 'the' McDavid on your team makes it all the more interesting watching his career take off.

But with 17 keepers, you do need some depth, so I would consider it.

I do like the look of my forwards if I made the swap. I think the thing that's held me back and has been echoed here today though, is in order to pry a 19-year-old McDavid away, it must be an overpay. (However, I did take him away from his original owner for Karlsson, Ehlers and Hellebuyck and I got back R. Strome and a pick.. which I think was pretty fair and thus was a good deal for me.)

I'm definitely considering this trade, and ff he puts Drouin, Laine or Murray in as the third piece, I think I would bite and I've told him as much just now. We shall see.

[Big Baby]

That offer isn't enough for McDavid. I wouldn't do it. Frankly, I wouldn't trade McDavid, period.

I agree. We haven't even seen a full season of McDavid yet. I wouldn't trade him. In a keeper league, he's basically untradable.