In talks to get Carey Price. Could be my biggest trade yet

[AngelicAssassin0]

Do you project Kopitar as a 200+ point forward because it's looking like that's the rate he's going to have to produce at to offset all the offense you are trading away. Carey Price will offset some of that but when you consider that you have the 3 WPG G's who are going to get all the starts in some combination the difference won't be that great.

[horrorfan]

i came up with the proposal. but so far Victoria doesnt seem too keen on doing this deal. but in your guys opinion is one team getting flecced? is this veto worthy? last thing i want is managers everywhere pissing their pants over a deal.

Then it doesn't matter if it's not going to happen - all that matters is all interested parties are on the same page. Is this a random three-manager deal that you just came up with, or have there been discussions with the other managers on a potential deal? Do the other managers have a plan in mind to help achieve this?

[StuntMan12]

Do you project Kopitar as a 200+ point forward because it's looking like that's the rate he's going to have to produce at to offset all the offense you are trading away. Carey Price will offset some of that but when you consider that you have the 3 WPG G's who are going to get all the starts in some combination the difference won't be that great.

so not worth it on my end to do the deal

hmm. ill re consider.

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Then it doesn't matter if it's not going to happen - all that matters is all interested parties are on the same page. Is this a random three-manager deal that you just came up with, or have there been discussions with the other managers on a potential deal? Do the other managers have a plan in mind to help achieve this?

we have all been in discussion. this is what shawinigan and me pretty well agreed upon mostly but victoria is the 3rd wheel who i dont think wants to do the deal. said he will think about it for awhile today

[StuntMan12]

doesn't one have to give up a premium to get the best goalie in the game tho? carey price were talking here in a 20 team league

westbury (me) is trading Barkov, Bennett, Hertl, Hellebuyck, Pavelec, Hutchinson, Brassard for Price, Kopitar
victoria is trading Rask, Kopitar for Winnipeg trio, drouin, brassard
shawinigan is trading Price, Drouin for Rask, Hertl, Barkov, Bennett

am i really giving up too much?

[PenguinHunter]

doesn't one have to give up a premium to get the best goalie in the game tho? carey price were talking here in a 20 team league

westbury (me) is trading Barkov, Bennett, Hertl, Hellebuyck, Pavelec, Hutchinson, Brassard for Price, Kopitar
victoria is trading Rask, Kopitar for Winnipeg trio, drouin, brassard
shawinigan is trading Price, Drouin for Rask, Hertl, Barkov, Bennett

am i really giving up too much?

I would say yes, you are giving up too much. Who are you going to be able to insert into your lineup to replace all the players you are getting rid of? That plays a huge role. When you are giving up 4 skaters and only getting 1 back.

[StuntMan12]

I would say yes, you are giving up too much. Who are you going to be able to insert into your lineup to replace all the players you are getting rid of? That plays a huge role. When you are giving up 4 skaters and only getting 1 back.

this is my teams full roster (we have a rule where if player is 23 or under at beginning of season they can be moved from pro roster to minors without going through waivers)

Barkov, Aleksander C - FLA
Bennett, Sam C - CGY
Brassard, Derick C - OTT
Johnson, Tyler C - TB
Boucher, Reid LW - NJ
Burakovsky, Andre LW - WAS
Comeau, Blake LW - COL
Haula, Erik C,LW - MIN
Frolik, Michael RW - CGY
Radulov, Alexander RW - MON
Rodin, Anton RW - VAN
Vey, Linden RW - CGY
Brodie, T.J. D - CGY
Demers, Jason D - FLA
Ekholm, Mattias D - NAS
Orlov, Dmitry D - WAS
Slavin, Jaccob D - CAR
Streit, Mark D - PHI
Bonino, Nick C - PIT
Sobotka, Vladimir C - (N/A)
Tanguay, Alex LW,RW - (N/A)
Athanasiou, Andreas C - DET
Berglund, Patrik C - STL
Girgensons, Zemgus C,LW - BUF
Hertl, Tomas C,LW - SJ
Laughton, Scott C - PHI
Marchessault, Jonathan C - FLA
Shipachyov, Vadim C - (N/A)
Foligno, Marcus LW - BUF
Golyshev, Anatoly LW - NYI
Gusev, Nikita LW - TB
Kaprizov, Kirill LW - MIN
Lessio, Lucas LW - (N/A)
Prokhorkin, Nikolay LW - LA
Dadonov, Evgenii RW - (N/A)
Garland, Conor RW - ARZ
Griffith, Seth C,RW - BOS
Auvitu, Yohann D - NJ
Bengtsson, Lukas D - PIT
Fox, Adam D - CGY
Hultstrom, Linus D - FLA
Larsen, Philip D - VAN
Miller, Kevan D - BOS
Nielsen, Andrew D - TOR
Paigin, Ziyat D - EDM
Tanev, Christopher D - VAN
Walman, Jake D - STL
Wisniewski, James D - (N/A)



Name
Pavelec, Ondrej G - WPG
Anderson, Craig G - OTT
Hammond, Andrew G - OTT
Hutchinson, Michael G - WPG
Hellebuyck, Connor G - WPG
O'Connor, Matthew G - OTT

[StuntMan12]

This is what my team would look like if it goes through. Shawinigan is on board, just have to see what Victoria thinks

Name
Kopitar, Anze C - LA
Johnson, Tyler C - TB
Sobotka, Vladimir C - (N/A)
Bonino, Nick C - PIT
Boucher, Reid LW - NJ
Burakovsky, Andre LW - WAS
Comeau, Blake LW - COL
Haula, Erik C,LW - MIN
Frolik, Michael RW - CGY
Radulov, Alexander RW - MON
Rodin, Anton RW - VAN
Vey, Linden RW - CGY
Brodie, T.J. D - CGY
Demers, Jason D - FLA
Ekholm, Mattias D - NAS
Orlov, Dmitry D - WAS
Slavin, Jaccob D - CAR
Streit, Mark D - PHI
Tanguay, Alex LW,RW - (N/A)
Athanasiou, Andreas C - DET
Berglund, Patrik C - STL
Girgensons, Zemgus C,LW - BUF
Laughton, Scott C - PHI
Marchessault, Jonathan C - FLA
Shipachyov, Vadim C - (N/A)
Foligno, Marcus LW - BUF
Golyshev, Anatoly LW - NYI
Gusev, Nikita LW - TB
Kaprizov, Kirill LW - MIN
Lessio, Lucas LW - (N/A)
Prokhorkin, Nikolay LW - LA
Dadonov, Evgenii RW - (N/A)
Garland, Conor RW - ARZ
Griffith, Seth C,RW - BOS
Auvitu, Yohann D - NJ
Bengtsson, Lukas D - PIT
Fox, Adam D - CGY
Hultstrom, Linus D - FLA
Larsen, Philip D - VAN
Miller, Kevan D - BOS
Nielsen, Andrew D - TOR
Paigin, Ziyat D - EDM
Tanev, Christopher D - VAN
Walman, Jake D - STL
Wisniewski, James D - (N/A)

Name
Price, Carey (MTL)
Anderson, Craig G - OTT
Hammond, Andrew G - OTT
O'Connor, Matthew G - OTT

[StuntMan12]

if u were victorias owner would you do the deal?

basically trading

Rask, kopitar for Hellebuyck, Pavelec, Hutchinson, Drouin, Brassard


Name
Kopitar, Anze C - LA
Malkin, Evgeni C - PIT
Seguin, Tyler C - DAL
Thornton, Joe C - SJ
Nash, Rick LW - NYR
Ovechkin, Alex LW - WAS
Sedin, Daniel LW - VAN
Steen, Alexander LW - STL
Callahan, Ryan RW - TB
Jagr, Jaromir RW - FLA
Oshie, T.J. RW - WAS
Williams, Justin RW - WAS
Carlson, John D - WAS
Chara, Zdeno D - BOS
Letang, Kris D - PIT
Pietrangelo, Alex D - STL
Reilly, Mike D - MIN
Yandle, Keith D - FLA
Toews, Jonathan C - CHI
Paajarvi, Magnus LW - STL
Connolly, Brett RW - WAS
White, Ryan C,RW - ARZ
Brooks, Adam C - TOR
De Leo, Chase C - WPG
Pirri, Brandon C - ANA
Shore, Devin C - DAL
Wallmark, Lucas C - CAR
Yakimov, Bogdan C - EDM
Aberg, Pontus (R) LW - NAS
Arvidsson, Viktor LW - NAS
De La Rose, Jacob LW - MON
Gourde, Yanni LW - TB
Gagner, Sam C,RW - (N/A)
Kovalchuk, Ilya LW,RW - (N/A)
Kuhnhackl, Tom RW - PIT
Lasch, Ryan RW - TOR
Robinson, Buddy RW - OTT
Carlo, Brandon D - BOS
Kostalek, Jan D - WPG
Lauzon, Jeremy D - BOS
Pokka, Ville D - CHI
Pysyk, Mark D - FLA
Schmidt, Nate D - WAS



Name
Rask, Tuukka G - BOS
Varlamov, Semyon G - COL
Vasilevskiy, Andrei G - TB
Comrie, Eric G - WPG
Coreau, Jared G - DET
Hogberg, Marcus G - OTT
Huska, Adam G - NYR
Johansson, Lars G - CHI
Khudobin, Anton G - BOS
Phillips, Jamie G - WPG
Sparks, Garret (R) G - TOR
Vejmelka, Karel G - NAS

[Moses]

I know how this is going to end Stuntman. You trade away all the pieces that other teams desire and will be left with a middling team that lacks the assets (liquid) that other teams want to trade for.

Rask and Kopitar -for- Helly and Drouin.

Sounds good on paper until you try to move Kopitar and Rask only to find the number of other managers that want those two are far less than the number of GMs that want Helly and Drouin.

[StuntMan12]

I know how this is going to end Stuntman. You trade away all the pieces that other teams desire and will be left with a middling team that lacks the assets (liquid) that other teams want to trade for.

Rask and Kopitar -for- Helly and Drouin.

Sounds good on paper until you try to move Kopitar and Rask only to find the number of other managers that want those two are far less than the number of GMs that want Helly and Drouin.

im basically trading

Winnipeg Trio
Barkov
Bennett
Hertl
Brassard
for

Price
Kopitar

its a 3 way deal, im trading my goalies and brassard to Victoria while im trading barkov, bennett, hertl to shawinigan

to Westbury
Carey Price (From Shawinigan)
Anze Kopitar (From Victoria)

to Shawinigan
Tuuka Rask (From Victoria)
Anton Khubodin (From Victoria)
Aleksander Barkov (From Westbury)
Sam Bennett (From Westbury)
Tomas Hertl (From Westbury)

To Victoria
Connor Hellebuyck (From Westbury)
Ondrej Pavelec (From Westbury)
Michael Hutchinson (From Westbury)
Jonathan Drouin (From Shawinigan)
Derrick Brassard (From Westbury)

[AngelicAssassin0]

stuntman this thread or any other trade thread you've posted boils down to this;

What kind of a fantasy hockey GM doe you see yourself as:

1)In it to compete to win(not necessarily at all costs, but within the context that ultimately this is a pastime and for only a select few would it be one of the ways they make a living) for a cyber trophy and to be able to say you won

2)strictly for the enjoyment of it(you are in a money league so you do seek a little financial reward)

After that you need to decide what accomplishes either of those goals for you.

1)Are you someone who likes to trade for the sake of trading(I don't see it, you don't trade much, lolololololololololololololololol with little regard for who comes and goes other than talking trade-or with the desire to own a few specific players and not worrying where your team finishes in the standings.

2)Do you analyze your team(s). determine their strengths and weaknesses and set out in a methodical step by step fashion to fill those holes to make your team better.

3)do you like to undertake team rebuilds and much like #2 determine a set course to accomplish that goal and start working towards it.

No wrong answer here stuntman and all joking with you aside the only person you answer to at the end of the day is yourself, the advice you get here is neither right or wrong, it's a person's opinion and you use it as you see fit.

Bottom line if you want to make a trade and then make based on the criteria that best fits who you are in the fantasy game and don't worry about what clan dobber has to say about. Taking into account that none of this is life or death if you click accept on a trade are you ok with it.

Good luck, bud.

[StuntMan12]

I want to contend. This price 3 way deal fell through, victoria wasnt on board, thought he was giving away too much.

[ericdaoust]

I want to contend. This price 3 way deal fell through, victoria wasnt on board, thought he was giving away too much.

Impulse-trading will never get you to contender status.

[AngelicAssassin0]

I want to contend. This price 3 way deal fell through, victoria wasnt on board, thought he was giving away too much.

Alright, that being said IMO, you are strongest at C eligible players assuming those designations remain as is. You are weakest on D overall I believe based on who your starting 6 would be. G may be a strength based mostly on having all the handcuffs for 2 teams. LW/RW are about equal, without flipping back to look, favoring the left side a little.

I would decide if it were my team exactly who I feel I might want to put OTB from my roster that is good enough but who I can live with parting with that will garner me a stud D and an upgrade to one of my wings. Maybe you do need to trade 3 or 4 or 5 players to get a couple of players that really upgrade you but at least there is a purpose there.

Look over every single teams roster and look for a team strong on D, I don't think you win with that D, maybe regardless of what your offense does and by all means ask for advice but make deals that make sense for you.

[StuntMan12]

TRADE TALKS HAVE RESUMED

current offer on table

To Westbury (ME)
Carey Price (From Shawinigan)
Anze Kopitar (From Victoria)
Brayden Point (From Shawinigan)
2019 1st Round Pick (From Shawinigan)

to Shawinigan
Tuuka Rask (From Victoria)
Anton Khudobin (From Victoria)
2017 2nd Round Pick (From Westbury)
Tomas Hertl (From Westbury)
Aleksander Barkov (From Westbury)
Sam Bennett (From Westbury)

To Victoria
Connor Hellebuyck (From Westbury)
Ondrej Pavelec (From Westbury)
Jonathan Drouin (From Shawinigan)
Tyler Johnson (From Westbury)

So in a nut shell..... Winnipeg Trio, Barkov, Bennett, Hertl, Johnson, 2nd for Price, Kopitar, Point, 1st Round Pick