Reply With QuoteLaine + TyJo + a 2nd rounder upgrade is not too much to pay for your favourite star player.
Too much for Seguin?
I've been trying to trade for Seguin for a while now since he is my favorite player and thus i wouldn't mind overpaying slightly. Apparently the Seguin owner wants one of my top 2 Picks (Matthews, Laine) plus Tyler Johnson and a pickupgrade in the 2nd Round of our Prospect Draft.
Is this too much to give up? Is it overpaying or do some of you feel that it is fair value?
It is for a 14 Team Full Keeper Dynasty League
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12 team full keeper dynasty league HeadtoHead - Point-Based
G/ A/P/ PPP/+/-/PIM/SOG/FOW/Hit/TK/BLK/GA/SV/SHO/W
C - Johansen, Giroux, Seguin, Hughes
LW - Laine, Benn, Landeskog, Ehlers
RW - Eberle, Bjorkstrand, Tkachuk, Boeser
D - Seider, Doughty, Jones, D. Hamilton
G - Andersen, Fleury, Saros
Prospects - Guenther, Hofer, Lundkvist,
Re: Too much for Seguin?
Laine + TyJo + a 2nd rounder upgrade is not too much to pay for your favourite star player.
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Re: Too much for Seguin?
Or an established top scorerOriginally Posted by Eskimo Brother
Re: Too much for Seguin?
Sounds good to me. 14 team league - you take the best player available and right now that is Seguin.
You also still have your other top 2 pick correct? Sounds like you have 1 & 2 in the entry draft?
Upgrade to an established scorer AND you still get Matthews.
WHL (24-Team Daily H2H)
Weighted Scoring: G(1),A(1),PPP(0.5),+/-(0.25), SOG/PIM/HIT/BLK(all 0.05), FOW-C(0.01)
Braham Pietasters
C(3): Barkov, Seguin, N.Schmaltz
LW(3): Gaudreau, Pacioretty, Hinostroza
RW(3): Radulov, Mantha, Dadonov
F(3): Bailey, Thornton, Vanek
D(6): Josi, Jones, Krug, Leddy, Ellis, Miller
G(1): Bishop (Sparks)
Bench: T. Wilson (RW), Boyle (C), Pirri (C), Boyd (C)
Farm: Myers (D), Husso (G), Soderstrom (G), Petersen (G), Anderson-Dolan (C), Pilut (D), Capobianco (D), Aho (D)
Re: Too much for Seguin?
That's a good deal, do it!
Re: Too much for Seguin?
+1 for the combination that these fine gents illustrated!
Hold on to Matthews though...
Keeper league 14 teams (H2H, 20 active players keep 16 NHLers, 16 minors)
Scoring Cats: G-A-PTS-PPG-PPA-(+/-)-HITS-BLK-SHP-SOG-FOW-GWG / W-L-SVS-SV%-GAA-SO
C- Crosby, Barzal, Bennett, Schmaltz, Novak
W- Forsberg, Batherson, Nichuskin, Tuch, Konecny, Maccelli, Sharangovich, Bertuzzi, Kaliyev, Neighbours, Reichel
D- Carlson, Rielly, Klingberg
G- Hellebuyck, Demko, Merzlikins, Vejmelka
Minors:
F: Fantilli, Cooley, Bourgault, Perreault, Cowan, Ohgren, N. Foote, Goyette, Iskhakov, Denisenko, Tracey
D: Simashev, Willander, Lambos
G: Schmidt, Rodrigue, DiPietro, Gaudreau, McKay
Re: Too much for Seguin?
Do the deal, keep Mathews tho. It's a great deal for you.
14 team h/h dynasty
Stats, G A PTS PIM +/- PPP SHP GWG shts TOI hts/blks W sv% gaa SO
$89 mill salary cap, cap hits
minors- players under 60 gms, goalies under 30 gms
3c 3lw 3rw 4d 2util 1goal
max 23 plyr rstr, 15 minors
CENTERS Kuznetsov, Necas, Petterson, Hughes, D.Strome, Seguin, Hayes, Scheifele
LEFTWING Gaudreau, Mantha, Forsberg, Keller
RIGHTWING Kakko , Debrincat, Thomas, Konecny
D-MEN Girard, Provorov, McCavoy, Dobson, Makar
GOALIES Gibson, Shesterkin, Sorokin
IR
MINORS Brannstrom, Kostin, Dennisenko, Kaprizov, Tippett, Cozens, Tolvanen, Zegras, Byfield , Vessalainen, K.Miller, Kyrou, Janik, Bokk, Lundell, Heinola, Hoglander, Lundkvist
Re: Too much for Seguin?
Laine
Tyler Johnson
FOR
Seguin
I'm pretty sure I would hit accept as soon as I could..
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Re: Too much for Seguin?
I agree with the others. Good deal for you!
12 teams, Yahoo H2H, daily, keep 5.
3C, 3LW, 3RW, 6D, 2G, 5BN, IR+
G, A, P, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, FW, HIT, BLK
W, GAA, SA, SV%, SHO
C: McDavid, MacKinnon, Eichel, Pettersson
LW: M.Tkachuk (+RW), Zucker (+RW), Coleman (+RW), N.Foligno (+C)
RW: Kucherov, Svechnikov (+LW), W.Nylander (+C), Kassian
D: Karlsson, Hughes,Doughty, Ekblad, Hronek, McNabb, Cernak
G: Lehner, Grubauer, Francouz
IR+:
Re: Too much for Seguin?
Funny - i own Seguin and in my league the return i was asking was Johnson, 2nd overall and 5th overall to start negotiations, but that was asking way to much since negotiations broke up immediately. Apparently some GM's feel this is a huge overpayment. Johnson + 2nd overall alone wouldn't do it for me
12 team full keeper dynasty league (H2H Points-Based)
scoring cats:
G, A, P, PPP, SHP, +/-, PIM, SOG, FOW, FOL, Hit, TK, BLK, GWG, GA, SV, SHO, W
C: Barkov, MacKinnon, Zegras, Hughes, Matthews
LW: Pavelski,Teravainen, Nichushkin,
RW: Rantanen, Laine, Terry
F: Kakko, Rakell, Granlund
D: Jones, Hamilton, Karlsson, Dahlin, Burns, Thrun,
G: Gibson, F. Andersen, Saros, Hart
Farm: L. Carlsson, Moore, Miroshnichenko, Mintyukov, Zellweger, Askarov, Fedotov, Clang
Re: Too much for Seguin?
You have your answer right there. I think long term you will look back and maybe regret this deal. I know the Laine hype is crazy. I just acquired Gaudreau for him, but the kid has a special shot. And that shot alone is what makes him a huge fantasy asset going forward.
6 Team no limit Keeper. Cap league $100m
Points only G/A=1, Hattrick = +3, Wins = 2, SO = +3, OTL/SOL = +1
12 Forwards, 6 Defense, 2 Goalies, 6 Reserve (any position)
Forwards
Crosby $8.7
Stone $9.5
Svechnikov $7.7
Debrincat $6.4
Hall $6
Meier $6
Guentzel $6
Ehlers $6
Hertl $5.6
Konecny $5.5
Palat $5.3
JT Miller $5.2
Garland $4.9
Kakko $.9
Laff $.9
Defense
Josi $9
Burns $8
Letang $7.2
Nurse $5.6
Werenski $5
Sergachev $4.8
Fox $.9
Goalies
Shesterkin $5.6
Ullmark $5
Hart $3.9
Blackwood $2.8
Re: Too much for Seguin?
Seguin side wins here big time. Perfect example of proven vs potential. It still applies with this year's top picks.
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Re: Too much for Seguin?
The asking price has changed, now the Seguin owner wants R. Johansen, Seth Jones, D. Strome and the 7th Overall Pick. What do you think about that???
12 team full keeper dynasty league HeadtoHead - Point-Based
G/ A/P/ PPP/+/-/PIM/SOG/FOW/Hit/TK/BLK/GA/SV/SHO/W
C - Johansen, Giroux, Seguin, Hughes
LW - Laine, Benn, Landeskog, Ehlers
RW - Eberle, Bjorkstrand, Tkachuk, Boeser
D - Seider, Doughty, Jones, D. Hamilton
G - Andersen, Fleury, Saros
Prospects - Guenther, Hofer, Lundkvist,
Re: Too much for Seguin?
I assume this owner also reads Dobberhockey forums
WHL (24-Team Daily H2H)
Weighted Scoring: G(1),A(1),PPP(0.5),+/-(0.25), SOG/PIM/HIT/BLK(all 0.05), FOW-C(0.01)
Braham Pietasters
C(3): Barkov, Seguin, N.Schmaltz
LW(3): Gaudreau, Pacioretty, Hinostroza
RW(3): Radulov, Mantha, Dadonov
F(3): Bailey, Thornton, Vanek
D(6): Josi, Jones, Krug, Leddy, Ellis, Miller
G(1): Bishop (Sparks)
Bench: T. Wilson (RW), Boyle (C), Pirri (C), Boyd (C)
Farm: Myers (D), Husso (G), Soderstrom (G), Petersen (G), Anderson-Dolan (C), Pilut (D), Capobianco (D), Aho (D)
Re: Too much for Seguin?
The original offer was an auto-accept for me.
The counter-offer is likely a pass.
Hard to say for sure as the trade is not for the team in your signature. I have no idea if you are in win now or what....
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