2016 NFL Draft - Chatter

[Bomm Bastic]

We have approximately 24 hours before the draft so let's get some chatter going. Sure Goff and Wentz are the first two QBs off that board. Does Paxton Lynch go in the top-10?

Who's the first WR off the board? I say Josh Doctson in an upset.

What round does the first TE go off the board?

Does CLE trade down from 8-spot? I say yes.

Does TEN trade back up into the top-10? Why not?

Does Kaepernick get traded between now and the end of the first round? Yes.

..and does anyone else believe Bradford should just stfu and be happy a team was dumb enough to pay him $18 mil this year. Ironic that the two teams to overpay him are now both drafting a QB.
What ya got peeps?

[Bomm Bastic]

Great rumor fodder from @TonyPauline http://walterfootball.com/tonypaulinerumors.php

Check out Kevin's mock http://www.dobberfootball.com/2016-mock-draft-round-1/

[Axeman33]

I am looking forward to tonights draft; I have been for some time. In my fantasy keeper league, I own the top pick and am I waiting to see where Zeke Elliott goes. I am reading that he should go in the 8-13 range. I do not want him to go to Cleveland at 8 and I am hoping the rumours are true and Cleveland trades down again to pick up more picks. I don't know who trades up to get him, but right now I think I'd take anywhere other than Cleveland.


Looking at Kevin's mock, he has Jack too high. Many seem to think he falls out of the top 10.

[Pengwin7]

I'll probably put the draft on in the background at home.
NFL is a weird sport in the sense that the actual real-life NFL draft doesn't parlay to "fantasy football" much at all.

Here in the hockey world, it seems like sometimes we have a divide between the real-hockey comments and the fantasy-hockey comments.
But most of the time, a top 15 drafted forward is going to also be a future solid fantasy player.
(aside from the defensive D-men that we all know to down-weight in fantasy)

In the NFL, there's so much value in an offensive-tackle (say) that doesn't translate at all to the fantasy world.
It effs up my brain to understand the impact of "cover corners", "pass protecting linemen", and "weak side linebackers"... ugh.

[metaldude26]

Looking at Kevin's mock, he has Jack too high. Many seem to think he falls out of the top 10.

I haven't read or heard any of this chatter. I believe there are some concerns about a knee injury but I don't have a good source on that.

[Axeman33]

I just read this off of Rotoworld from Alex Marvez

One NFL executive predicted to Sirius NFL Radio's Alex Marvez that UCLA LB Myles Jack will fall out of the top-ten picks.

Two other sources told Marvez that Jack is moving down and off some draft boards due to increasing concern with the condition of his knee. The situation reminds of Da'Quan Bowers' in the 2011 draft. Bowers was viewed as a candidate to go in the top-five picks, but fell deep into the second round. Jack is a better prospect than Bowers was, but his injury situation is similar.

[metaldude26]

I'll probably put the draft on in the background at home.
NFL is a weird sport in the sense that the actual real-life NFL draft doesn't parlay to "fantasy football" much at all.

Here in the hockey world, it seems like sometimes we have a divide between the real-hockey comments and the fantasy-hockey comments.
But most of the time, a top 15 drafted forward is going to also be a future solid fantasy player.
(aside from the defensive D-men that we all know to down-weight in fantasy)

In the NFL, there's so much value in an offensive-tackle (say) that doesn't translate at all to the fantasy world.
It effs up my brain to understand the impact of "cover corners", "pass protecting linemen", and "weak side linebackers"... ugh.

I really don't do fantasy football but in general I don't love mock drafts because there is so much dependence on "team needs" rather than looking at the best players. For instance, two quarterbacks are going 1-2 in this draft even though they may not even be top-10 players in the draft. Looking instead at a pure talent ranking can be more informative, especially when you see who your team actually ends up with because history has proven that drafting for needs rather than talent is a less valuable strategy. Football is really the only sport with enough positional specificity where you would actually consider drafting for need rather than talent so draft order may not be ultimately informative regarding player talent.

One other thing: if you've got a draft where a couple of supposed franchise quarterbacks aren't necessarily top-10 talents you could have one of two scenarios on your hand. In one scenario, the talent pool is so dense that these quarterbacks have been pushed down and there is some serious skill to be found. On the other hand, maybe there just isn't much elite talent in the draft pool at all, at least as far as skill positions go. I think I lean in the latter direction for this draft though I am woefully under-informed on this stuff.

[2014olympicgold]

The important positions help out the difference making positions. Like Oakland beefed up their O-line so much this offseason that I’m expecting a much better offense from them. However, their main offensive fantasy positions didn’t change (Murray, Carr, Cooper).

So if you look deep into a team like the skins, if they draft a blind side lineman, Cousins fantasy stock could increase.

Strong defense = short field = easier TDs. A La Carolina last yr. LB as a rookie usually don’t help out right away like defensemen in the NHL.

I own the top pick again this yr, and I’m hoping that Elliot avoids the Browns

[Bomm Bastic]

I am looking forward to tonights draft; I have been for some time. In my fantasy keeper league, I own the top pick and am I waiting to see where Zeke Elliott goes. I am reading that he should go in the 8-13 range. I do not want him to go to Cleveland at 8 and I am hoping the rumours are true and Cleveland trades down again to pick up more picks. I don't know who trades up to get him, but right now I think I'd take anywhere other than Cleveland.


Looking at Kevin's mock, he has Jack too high. Many seem to think he falls out of the top 10.

I don't want him going to CLE either. Really hoping to snag Terrell Watson as a dynasty stash. Elliott would all but kill that notion. I think DAL takes Elliott at 4-spot.

[Bomm Bastic]

I really hate this red carpet shit.

[rataylor22]

All I've seen on my twitter timeline for 2 weeks is how big a concern Myles Jack's knee is. #1 player in the draft is questionable to go on the first day. Some team will jump at him though, hope he slides to the Colts.

[Bomm Bastic]

All I've seen on my twitter timeline for 2 weeks is how big a concern Myles Jack's knee is. #1 player in the draft is questionable to go on the first day. Some team will jump at him though, hope he slides to the Colts.

I heard his meniscus is fine, it's the "degenerative" condition with regard to his knee cartilage. From what i have heard, much like Jay Ajayi, predicting the path of a degenerative cartilage condition is not an easy thing from a medical standpoint. They could play two days or five years. No MRI will will reveal anything different. So from the team's perspective they have to determine the best draft spot to get value balanced against the risk or likelihood of Jack getting through his rookie contract.

[Bomm Bastic]

...and with the 1st overall selection in the 2016, the LA Rams select Jared Goff.

woopie

[Bomm Bastic]

Called the CLE trading down and TEN trading back up into the top-10....just had no idea it would be the same deal. Good for both teams.

[metaldude26]

What's this video that caused teams to pass on Tunsil?