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Hedman/Weber (Probably Hedman based purely on age)
Rank: Weber Carlson Hedman
Rank the 3 blueliners.
(Yes, Shea btw)
Stats:
G
A
Pts
+/-
Pims
PP pts
Shots
Hits
Blocks
12 team keeper
dress 12F 6D 2G, bench 6F 3D 2G
keep 8 F, 4D, 1G, draft every year for the rest.
Forwards: 2pts/Goal 1pt/Assist 4pts/hattrick
Defense: 3pts/Goal 1.5pts/Assist 6 pts/hattrick
Both: 0.05 pts/Hit 0.05/Blocked shot
Goalie: 2pts/win 1pt/tie 5pts/Shutout 0.02pts/save
Dressed
F - STAMKOS, OVECHKIN, KUCHEROV, PAVELSKI, BACKSTROM, DROUIN, PANARIN, WHEELER, Landeskog, Cammalieri, Marleau, Ward
D - HEDMAN, EKMAN-LARSSON, BARRIE, PARAYKO, Markov, Savard
G - HOLTBY, Anderson
Bench
F - Burakovsky, Killorn, Hertl, Read, Rantanen, Sutter
D - Trouba, Niskanen, Zidlicky
G - Halak, Hammond
Re: Rank: Weber Carlson Hedman
Carlson
Hedman/Weber (Probably Hedman based purely on age)
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Re: Rank: Weber Carlson Hedman
Hedman
Weber
Carlson
(But then I'm probably a chronic over hype guy on Hedman and under on Carlson).
Re: Rank: Weber Carlson Hedman
+1 for this. Given your team looks like a contender right now, I'd give Weber the edge over Hedman despite his age. He fills more of your cats. Speaking of your cats: why do you have Eberle as a keeper over Wheeler (who's way better in the peripherals)? Just wondering after having had a look at your team in your sig....Originally Posted by Eskimo Brother
24 team H2H dynasty, fantasy points, no cap
Skaters: G 4.5 (5 for Ds), A 3, PPG 1.5 (2 for Ds), PPA 1 (1.5 for Ds), SHP 2, Ft 2, HIT 0.6, BLK 0.6, SOG 0.3 (0.4 for Ds), FW 0.1, Tk 0.5 // Gv -0.3
Goalies: W 3.5, SHO 5, SV 0.5, A 3 // GA -3, L -1.5
4C, 4LW, 4RW, 6D, 2G, 4BN, 4IR
C: McDavid, MacKinnon, Hischier
LW: B.Tkachuk, Ovechkin, Paul(C), Jankowski(C)
LW/RW: Meier, Fiala, Giroux(C), Niederreiter
RW: Reinhart, Anderson, Armia
D: Josi, Matheson, Durzi, Moser, Cernak, Zadorov, Siegenthaler
G: Daccord, Merzlikins, Vanecek, Pickard
44 minors; most noteables: A.Schmid, E.Andrae, M.Kesselring, S.Malinski, B.Pachal, L.Stanley, L.Bichsel, E.Soderblom,...
Re: Rank: Weber Carlson Hedman
Carlson
Hedman
Weber
14 team h/h dynasty
Stats, G A PTS PIM +/- PPP SHP GWG shts TOI hts/blks W sv% gaa SO
$89 mill salary cap, cap hits
minors- players under 60 gms, goalies under 30 gms
3c 3lw 3rw 4d 2util 1goal
max 23 plyr rstr, 15 minors
CENTERS Kuznetsov, Necas, Petterson, Hughes, D.Strome, Seguin, Hayes, Scheifele
LEFTWING Gaudreau, Mantha, Forsberg, Keller
RIGHTWING Kakko , Debrincat, Thomas, Konecny
D-MEN Girard, Provorov, McCavoy, Dobson, Makar
GOALIES Gibson, Shesterkin, Sorokin
IR
MINORS Brannstrom, Kostin, Dennisenko, Kaprizov, Tippett, Cozens, Tolvanen, Zegras, Byfield , Vessalainen, K.Miller, Kyrou, Janik, Bokk, Lundell, Heinola, Hoglander, Lundkvist
Re: Rank: Weber Carlson Hedman
Weber
Carlson
Hedman
How people can put Shea Weber below these two in this type of league setup is a head scratcher to me. Weber was a top 20 player last year with this setup and pretty much dominated them in seasons prior to this one too.
10 Team, Points Only, Cash League
25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, SBennett
G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger
"Cleavage is like the sun. You can look, but dont stare.. Unless you're wearing sunglasses."
Re: Rank: Weber Carlson Hedman
Im thinkin Weber is the best of the bunch, but the other 2 have the potential to outpoint Weber.
12 team keeper
dress 12F 6D 2G, bench 6F 3D 2G
keep 8 F, 4D, 1G, draft every year for the rest.
Forwards: 2pts/Goal 1pt/Assist 4pts/hattrick
Defense: 3pts/Goal 1.5pts/Assist 6 pts/hattrick
Both: 0.05 pts/Hit 0.05/Blocked shot
Goalie: 2pts/win 1pt/tie 5pts/Shutout 0.02pts/save
Dressed
F - STAMKOS, OVECHKIN, KUCHEROV, PAVELSKI, BACKSTROM, DROUIN, PANARIN, WHEELER, Landeskog, Cammalieri, Marleau, Ward
D - HEDMAN, EKMAN-LARSSON, BARRIE, PARAYKO, Markov, Savard
G - HOLTBY, Anderson
Bench
F - Burakovsky, Killorn, Hertl, Read, Rantanen, Sutter
D - Trouba, Niskanen, Zidlicky
G - Halak, Hammond
Re: Rank: Weber Carlson Hedman
I have no doubt that both of the others have the potential to "outpoint" Weber, but unless I am reading your OP wrong, this isn't a points only format. That being said, I dont see either Hedman or Carlson as that much of a difference in offense to offset what they lack compared to Weber in the other categories.
10 Team, Points Only, Cash League
25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, SBennett
G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger
"Cleavage is like the sun. You can look, but dont stare.. Unless you're wearing sunglasses."
Re: Rank: Weber Carlson Hedman
Because there is someone by the name of Roman Josi who not only is taking some time away from weber, but out producing him.
14 team h/h dynasty
Stats, G A PTS PIM +/- PPP SHP GWG shts TOI hts/blks W sv% gaa SO
$89 mill salary cap, cap hits
minors- players under 60 gms, goalies under 30 gms
3c 3lw 3rw 4d 2util 1goal
max 23 plyr rstr, 15 minors
CENTERS Kuznetsov, Necas, Petterson, Hughes, D.Strome, Seguin, Hayes, Scheifele
LEFTWING Gaudreau, Mantha, Forsberg, Keller
RIGHTWING Kakko , Debrincat, Thomas, Konecny
D-MEN Girard, Provorov, McCavoy, Dobson, Makar
GOALIES Gibson, Shesterkin, Sorokin
IR
MINORS Brannstrom, Kostin, Dennisenko, Kaprizov, Tippett, Cozens, Tolvanen, Zegras, Byfield , Vessalainen, K.Miller, Kyrou, Janik, Bokk, Lundell, Heinola, Hoglander, Lundkvist
Re: Rank: Weber Carlson Hedman
Carlson
Weber
Hedman
Weber has the plus in goals historically (and even last year!), but he is very much in a roller coaster in goals/shots/sh% over the last few years. He shot @ almost 11% last season and recent years he is more around 7%-8% over the last 5-6 years
If he takes under 200 SOG and shoots at around 7-8% like many of his past years he is equal with Carlson who is improving now that he is the only option in WSH.
Carlson even knows now that he is allowed to shoot on the PP and not just swing it to the right dot for OVI, that could be 5 more PPG over the season alone ( *I joke*)
Josi is becoming an option for his team on the PP or 3v3, etc and Weber could miss some prime time minutes to Josi.
I like Hedman but he is a big step down from both of these players IMO. This could not be talent wise but in his development and deployment I like both players well above him.
10 Team Yahoo Roto Keeper:Keep 6 each year
3C, 3LW, 3RW, 4D, 2G, 5BN
G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, SOG, HIT
W, GAA, SV%, SO
Keepers in Bold:
RW: Kucherov
G: Helly
Re: Rank: Weber Carlson Hedman
But Roman Josi isn't in the OP here. Even with Josi there, he isn't taking any time away from Weber. If anything, they play together.
Weber is still the better option comparing these three being questioned with these categories even if you think Josi is hurting him. The numbers don't lie.
10 Team, Points Only, Cash League
25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, SBennett
G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger
"Cleavage is like the sun. You can look, but dont stare.. Unless you're wearing sunglasses."
Re: Rank: Weber Carlson Hedman
Agree with Axe - Weber is a stud. Bottom line you can't go wrong whatever way you go, I wouldn't be unhappy whichever I got in this format.
Piranha Hockey League est 1990 - Oakley Doakley's - 16 teams
Pts only W=2 OL=1 SO=3 Auction Draft
WHL - est 2016 Expansion - Glasgow Kiss - 24 teams
25 pro players / 10 minor league players
G,A,+/-,PPP,SOG,Hits,Blk,PIM,FOW, W,Sv,GA,SHO
Re: Rank: Weber Carlson Hedman
Just to show last year's numbers in this format (numbers in order of above, leaders in each category in bold):
Weber (78 games): 20, 31, 51, -7, 27, 26, 189, 169, 160
Hedman (78 games): 10, 37, 47, 21, 46, 11, 180, 62, 132
Carlson (p/r to 78 games): 11, 43, 54, 16, 19, 19, 172, 64, 158
Of course, you can project differently going forward but just to highlight each player's contributions in each category. In this format, the difference between the top D and the next 'tier' is in the peripherals, and Weber's combination of hits and blocks continues to make him an top option. The others may outpoint him going forward, but I wonder if that is enough to outweigh the significant advantage in the number of hits (100!) Weber produces.
Re: Rank: Weber Carlson Hedman
Weber
Carlson
Hedman
For me.
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