In your ESPN Roto league, yes I would. Only way I wouldn’t would be if it was a heavy bonus on D-points.
I would 100% give my Klingberg for either of those 2 players.
If you could trade Klinger for a high end fwd (like a PKane or a Backstrom)..would you?
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24 man roster (+3 IR) - Keep 20 - Daily settings
Start 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 5D, 2G, 1UTIL
G,A,PTS, +/-, PIM, PPA, PPG, D PTS - W, SV, SV%
C- Zegras, Suzuki, Carlsson
RW- Batherson, Michkov, Quinn, Perfetti(C,LW), Foerster, Kakko
LW- BTkachuk, Stutzle(C), Byfield(C), McTavish(C), Benson
D- Mintyukov, Sanderson, LHughes, Clarke, Faber
G- Wolf, Askarov, Wallstedt
IR- Norris(C)
IR- Fantilli(C)
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In your ESPN Roto league, yes I would. Only way I wouldn’t would be if it was a heavy bonus on D-points.
I would 100% give my Klingberg for either of those 2 players.
12 Team, H2H, Keep 6 (in Bold)
G, A, Pts, PPP, FW, SOG, Hits, Blocks
W, Saves, S%, GAA, Game Started
2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 1Util, 2G, 5BN, 2IR, 1IR+, 1NA
C: Horvat, Trocheck
LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
Util: Meier (LW, RW)
G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll
I would, too.
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Agreed. Confused though - the league says G - A - Pts - D Pts, so I'm assuming D Pts are not counted in the other categories? Either way, you have enough other trade bait that you could get a solid scoring D-man elsewhere.
20-team NHL cap keeper; auction salaries w/contracts; 4C, 4LW, 4RW, 6D, 2G, 3B, 18 farm
H2H Cat Wins: G, A, Pts, 2G+A, DPts, PIM, SOG, Hits, Blks, FO%, STG, GWG, G Wins, GAA, Save %, ShO
C: Stamkos, Toews, DRyan, Compher, Fisher, Haula
LW: Lucic, Tkachuk, Eriksson Ek, Connor
RW: Radulov, Tarasenko, JWilliams, Point, Callahan
D: Braun, Del Zotto, McNabb, CMiller, Petry, Subban, Butcher
G: Andersen, Rinne
Farm: Anderson-Dolan, Beaudin, O?Regan, Suzuki, Kayumov, Bastian, Pu, Meloche, Pionk, Poolman, Montembault, Hill
I go back and forth on this a lot. On face value trading Klingberg for a Kane makes sense, because I mean Kane is going to get more points, done deal.
However, I think that with the top 5-6 D (Karlsson, Klingberg, Josi, Burns, Subban, OEL) or at least the top tier of D man, become more valuable based on the requirement to start them.
In your league you have to start 5 D so having a Klingberg as one of those 5 gives you an inherent advantage. It is almost like having another forward points wise, not as good as Kane, but more valuable then any other D man outside his tier mates.
Especially since your league seems to count D points and PPP points, the only way I would want to trade a Klingberg or equivalent is if I was getting a top tier forward who would fill the stats the same as he would AND fill another category as well like PIMS, like an Ovechkin.
Now having said all that if I was offered kane I would have a very hard time saying no. I cannot say this strategy is correct but it is what runs thru my head when I see a straight swap of D for F
12 Team Roto Keeper
G A +/- SOG PPP FOW HITS BLKS PIM
W GA GAA SV SA SV% SHO
10 Keepers
F- Kopitar Kesler Thornton Benn Draisital Pacioretty Kuznetsov Backes D.Sedin Ryan Burakovsky
D- Subban Faulk Byfuglien DeHann Martinez Trouba
G- Halak Dubnyk Talbot
BN- Bjugstad Dubinsky Ryan Gudas Tanev Hanzal Marleau
12 Team H2H
B- H/AB R H HR RBI SB K TB AVG OBP
P - IP W HLD SV K ERA WHIP K/9
B: Hosmer Donaldson Correa Trout Harper Heyward Sano Weiters Duffy Pillar Incarte Hernandez Realmuto Peraza Alvarez Span
P: Cole Sale Fernandez Cueto Hamels Robertson Giles Wilson Colome Watson Samardzija Bauer Knebel
F: Turner Travis Margot Stephenson Gouirrel Jr
ESPN Roto 10 team
24 man roster (+3 IR) - Keep 20 - Daily settings
Start 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 5D, 2G, 1UTIL
G,A,PTS, +/-, PIM, PPA, PPG, D PTS - W, SV, SV%
C- Zegras, Suzuki, Carlsson
RW- Batherson, Michkov, Quinn, Perfetti(C,LW), Foerster, Kakko
LW- BTkachuk, Stutzle(C), Byfield(C), McTavish(C), Benson
D- Mintyukov, Sanderson, LHughes, Clarke, Faber
G- Wolf, Askarov, Wallstedt
IR- Norris(C)
IR- Fantilli(C)
IR-
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I used to be in an ESPN league with D-Points, and it increased the value of defensemen dramatically, to the point where Erik Karlsson was on par with Crosby (and that was during Crosby's best years). But the league i was in was H2H, so it worked alot different than a Roto. In Roto, even with the boost from the D-Points category, I'd probably still want Kaner over Klingberg.
Anybody else wanna chime in?
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24 man roster (+3 IR) - Keep 20 - Daily settings
Start 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 5D, 2G, 1UTIL
G,A,PTS, +/-, PIM, PPA, PPG, D PTS - W, SV, SV%
C- Zegras, Suzuki, Carlsson
RW- Batherson, Michkov, Quinn, Perfetti(C,LW), Foerster, Kakko
LW- BTkachuk, Stutzle(C), Byfield(C), McTavish(C), Benson
D- Mintyukov, Sanderson, LHughes, Clarke, Faber
G- Wolf, Askarov, Wallstedt
IR- Norris(C)
IR- Fantilli(C)
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Probably. Any trade to improve your team is a good trade. 50 Point D in my league is worth 60 point F. So if I can get a 70 point forward it's a no brainer. Of course every league is different so a tool like FHG is helpful when evaluating D vs F value.
Now that Kane has another elite high skilled forward in Panarin (rather than guys like Shaw, Ladd, etc) he is showing his true ceiling, with a massive point lead on 2nd & 3rd place in league scoring. He is entering his prime at age 27 and should be a huge add for your team. No way I would even consider moving Kane for Klingberg and I am a Kane owner.
WHL - World Hockey League (24-Team Daily H2H) Est. 2015
Vancouver Voodoo
C: Scheifele, Sedin, Stastny, Zetterberg
LW: Panarin, Landeskog,
RW: P. Kane, , Meier, Mantha, Anderson, Coyle, Hansen
D: Carlson, Faulk, Hamilton, Trouba, Goligoski, Matheson
G: Andersen, Mason
Minors: Demko, Virtanen, Walman, Benson, Gourde, Boqvist, Glass, Foote, Claesson, Gaudette
12 team, keep 15 H2H Weekly
Crosby, Malkin, Seguin, Kessel, Kucherov, Byfuglien, OEL, Klingberg, Holtby, Quick, Scheifele, Hellebuyck, Simmonds, Arvidsson, Schenn
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