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    Can we all agree that Rex Ryan is possibly the most overrated coach in the NFL. ?? His teams in NJ backed into the playoffs those years.. I hope Buffalo gets rid of him cause they re much better than what they show week in and week out.

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    Rex Ryan should either be a colour commentator or a defensive coordinator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metaldude26 View Post
    Rex Ryan should either be a colour commentator or a defensive coordinator.
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    I can only think of a handful of coaches that I'd rather have

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWhale View Post
    I can only think of a handful of coaches that I'd rather have
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    I think he is a great D-coach, but that team needs a QB before a new coach. RR has done some pretty good things with terrible QBs
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    He is overrated as head coach. But for my money I'd go w/Jeff Fisher as the most overrated. Fisher's offenses are as exciting to watch as paint drying. At least Rex has more flare about his play calling than Mr. Mediocrity himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    I think he is a great D-coach, but that team needs a QB before a new coach. RR has done some pretty good things with terrible QBs
    That QB has the 5th highest QB rating in the league.. Great D-coach? Based on what??

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    Quote Originally Posted by GinFizz View Post
    That QB has the 5th highest QB rating in the league.. Great D-coach? Based on what??
    It’s all low risk plays. Tyrod isn’t a good QB, he’s just baby’ed.
    195/307 for 63.5%, avgs less than 28 attempts/game. He avgs 17.7/27.9 and 221.7 yards

    TT isn’t a good QB. He’s a serviceable QB.

    They don't even let him go no huddle yet. He's thrown 16 passes when going no huddle.

    He's babied and his numbers reflect it. Take away the run game and he's not special, good, great, whatever you wanna say. He's just another QB, and he's playing better than what he is.
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    Ots of head coaches are overrated. There aren't very many good ones in the NFL. Most are much better suited as coordinators. I think Rex is probably in the top half of current NFL coaches, but that's more an indictment on current NFL coaches than t is an endorsement of Rex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    It’s all low risk plays. Tyrod isn’t a good QB, he’s just baby’ed.
    195/307 for 63.5%, avgs less than 28 attempts/game. He avgs 17.7/27.9 and 221.7 yards

    TT isn’t a good QB. He’s a serviceable QB.

    They don't even let him go no huddle yet. He's thrown 16 passes when going no huddle.

    He's babied and his numbers reflect it. Take away the run game and he's not special, good, great, whatever you wanna say. He's just another QB, and he's playing better than what he is.
    Those numbers are pretty similar to Russell Wilson.. I guess he is just serviceable as well?

    Are you implying that in order to be recognized as more than a serviceable qb you have to go "no huddle"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by metaldude26 View Post
    Rex Ryan should either be a colour commentator or a defensive coordinator.
    He's not even that good of a defensive coordinator...the Bills defense has regressed significantly this season with the same personnel. The defensive personnel is better than they were a year ago, but Sexy Rexy thinks you're better off dropping Williams and Dareus into pass coverage than rushing the QB...because that makes a lot of sense.

    He doesn't hold his players accountable and they play sloppy football and make repeated mistakes that wouldn't be acceptable at the high school level. He needs to go, but he won't...there are too many financial obligations with his contract to terminate and pay another coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bomm Bastic View Post
    He is overrated as head coach. But for my money I'd go w/Jeff Fisher as the most overrated. Fisher's offenses are as exciting to watch as paint drying. At least Rex has more flare about his play calling than Mr. Mediocrity himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    It’s all low risk plays. Tyrod isn’t a good QB, he’s just baby’ed.
    195/307 for 63.5%, avgs less than 28 attempts/game. He avgs 17.7/27.9 and 221.7 yards

    TT isn’t a good QB. He’s a serviceable QB.

    They don't even let him go no huddle yet. He's thrown 16 passes when going no huddle.

    He's babied and his numbers reflect it. Take away the run game and he's not special, good, great, whatever you wanna say. He's just another QB, and he's playing better than what he is.
    I gotta disagree here. Sure they pick and choose their spots to chuck it, after all it is a run based offense under Rex. But they're by no means babying taylor. It's his first year as a starter let alone under this system, and he's got much better downfield accuracy than any Bills QB of late. Why does Andrew Luck get a pass on all those INTs, and Cam is allowed to grow and develop as a passer, but we're casting Taylor aside after just 13 NFL starts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bomm Bastic View Post
    I gotta disagree here. Sure they pick and choose their spots to chuck it, after all it is a run based offense under Rex. But they're by no means babying taylor. It's his first year as a starter let alone under this system, and he's got much better downfield accuracy than any Bills QB of late. Why does Andrew Luck get a pass on all those INTs, and Cam is allowed to grow and develop as a passer, but we're casting Taylor aside after just 13 NFL starts?
    As i am not a fan of Luck only because i'm a skins fan and the whole RG3 vs Luck draft. But, with no ground game really besides this yr, and that only started being OK when Luck was obviously hurting, D play a pass heavy d. I do not like the whole 50passes per game aspect teams do, and it just seemed like Indy was doing that and abandoning the run way to early in games. Just makes being a Qb difficult. This yr should really be a write off for Lucks performance, but i think his hype is based off fantasy production, which helps when you throw it 50times and no RB stealing TD points. He is a solid developing talent tho.

    Cam Newton. He's done a lot with pieces where no one really cared about. He's a guy that knows how to win.

    Buffalo has played like 5 games against teams over 500, and they've only beat the Jets (1 of the games Tyrod didn't play). Honestly I don't see Tyrod as a good QB yet. He's done well in a safe system (be nice to see how many 20+ yards throws he's had that have been off play-action. Still has to make the pass, but its based off the run game). His most impressive game to me was when he played KC.

    I only see him as a QB that's playing in a system to protect him. All new QBs have it, Cousins is running the same system thought. Even Wilson was under the same "run develops the pass" thinking until Lynch went out. Right now, i see Tyrod as a sub 15QB. I'd like to have a few of the young guys even over him (Bortles, Carr, Winston, Mariota)
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    As i am not a fan of Luck only because i'm a skins fan and the whole RG3 vs Luck draft. But, with no ground game really besides this yr, and that only started being OK when Luck was obviously hurting, D play a pass heavy d. I do not like the whole 50passes per game aspect teams do, and it just seemed like Indy was doing that and abandoning the run way to early in games. Just makes being a Qb difficult. This yr should really be a write off for Lucks performance, but i think his hype is based off fantasy production, which helps when you throw it 50times and no RB stealing TD points. He is a solid developing talent tho.

    Cam Newton. He's done a lot with pieces where no one really cared about. He's a guy that knows how to win.

    Buffalo has played like 5 games against teams over 500, and they've only beat the Jets (1 of the games Tyrod didn't play). Honestly I don't see Tyrod as a good QB yet. He's done well in a safe system (be nice to see how many 20+ yards throws he's had that have been off play-action. Still has to make the pass, but its based off the run game). His most impressive game to me was when he played KC.

    I only see him as a QB that's playing in a system to protect him. All new QBs have it, Cousins is running the same system thought. Even Wilson was under the same "run develops the pass" thinking until Lynch went out. Right now, i see Tyrod as a sub 15QB. I'd like to have a few of the young guys even over him (Bortles, Carr, Winston, Mariota)
    Oh, well, no doubt there QBs better than him. Although as far Bortles is concerned I'm not too sure. Kid can't read a defense for squat. Regardless, I would admit that Taylor will have more success as a system QB ala Russell Wilson than as true pocket passer.
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