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[JagrBomb]

Quick look at Team Cap Situations (based on 2014-2015 cap hits):

$99.9m Fall River's Finest (MCMackerel)
$98.2m Halifax Krakens (GretzkysMullet)
$91.2m Markham Waxers (praba)
$82.0m Fort Frances Muskies (Burgundy)
$78.4m CSKA Moscow (rainydrinkwater)
$73.8m Edmonton Road Runners (Lemmy)
$70.4m Amsterdam Red Lights (rataylor22)
$69.8m Grand Rapids Griffins (brakli)
$69.8m Cleveland Barons (gopack26)
$62.4m Guelph Storm (havanablast21)
$60.9m Flint Firebirds (Pit Bulls)
$58.8m District-5 Ducks (evans334)
$49.6m Hartford Whalers (Savvy1982)
$48.8m Braham Pietasters (glorybe23)

ill make sure you never forget my team after i destroy you in Week 1's matchup

[Pengwin7]

ill make sure you never forget my team after i destroy you in Week 1's matchup

I only care about week 26.
That's the week I want to beat you!

[GretzkysMullet]

A couple teams look like they will be in serious cap struggle to get back under $100m, once 2015-2016 CAP HIT information is updated by Fantrax!!!

I calculated my cap with 2015-2016 numbers and I'm at approximately $95,400,000.

[Pengwin7]

I calculated my cap with 2015-2016 numbers and I'm at approximately $95,400,000.

Ah, Stephen Weiss still shows as $4.9m... that would bring you down nicely - and not many changing/new contracts.
Well done.

[rataylor22]

Adding this from Fantrax:

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[I]Quote by Fall River's Finest (MCMackerel) on Aug 13, 2015 11:51 AM EDT

1. Salary cap -- what procedure do we go through to figure out if the cap needs to be increased? If imagine we should follow a similar "inflation" rate as real life NHL caps go up if we want to keep our cap consistent.

4. Non contracted NHL players: examples would be kovalchuk or radulov. Can we roster these guys? What about college players or other non nhlers?

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1. Cap.
I think we'll vote on it, but there will be some yearly increase. Some even amount. Next year it'll either stay at $100m or go up to $102m or $103m or $104m - something like that.
Technically, it hasn't yet been defined whether it will go up - we'll see what the majority wants to do.
The only decided item is $100m for this year after October 1st.
(Carrying $110m is allowed until October 1st - because Fantrax hasn't updated Cap Hits and some teams will surely rise when they update.)

4. re: Eligible PRO Players
For now - I think a good definition is that they need to have a valid NHL contract in the current OR previous year... to be rostered until Oct 31st.
From Nov 1st-April 30th... they need to have a valid NHL contract for the current year.

1) I personally think we should use the same cap inflation percentage that the NHL does. That seems most "fair"

4) Eligible pro players for the offseason should be any player eligible to have an NHL contract. Examples:
- Kovalchuk and Radulov - Both have KHL contracts for next season and are therefore ineligible to sign and NHL deal. As such, they are pro-roster ineligible.
- Vladimir Tchakev - Still NHL draft eligible and therefore is ineligible to sign as a UDFA. As such, pro roster ineligible.
- Cody Franson - UFA, can sign an NHL contract at any time. Pro roster eligible.
- Steve Moses (prior to signing) - UDFA, was eligible to sign with any NHL team. Pro roster eligible.

After the season starts, a player must have an NHL contract to be Pro Roster eligible.

[newfcollins]

Quick look at Team Cap Situations (based on 2014-2015 cap hits):

$80.4m Montreal Canadiens (newfcollins)

I won't approach $100 million, but I think I'll be adding about $13 million or so on to my cap hit. Hamilton is going up about $5 million, Fleury by about $750,000 Greiss about $500,000, Methot by about $2 million, Bjustad by about $3 million, Krejci by about $2 million.

[GretzkysMullet]

Ah, Stephen Weiss still shows as $4.9m... that would bring you down nicely - and not many changing/new contracts.
Well done.

Contract year for 11 of my 25 roster players, however. Things could get interesting next season. I'll take it though, could get big years out of some of those guys..

[VintageVibe]

Quick look at Team Cap Situations (based on 2014-2015 cap hits):

$99.9m Fall River's Finest (MCMackerel)
$98.2m Halifax Krakens (GretzkysMullet)
...
$91.2m Markham Waxers (praba)
...
$88.9m Windsor Spitfires (Pengwin7)
$84.1m Highland Scotch Hounds (seadawg)
$82.0m Fort Frances Muskies (Burgundy)
$80.4m Montreal Canadiens (newfcollins)
...
$78.4m CSKA Moscow (rainydrinkwater)
$73.8m Edmonton Road Runners (Lemmy)
$70.4m Amsterdam Red Lights (rataylor22)
...
$69.8m Grand Rapids Griffins (brakli)
$69.8m Cleveland Barons (gopack26)
$67.0m Saanichton Cougars (InForAPenny)
$65.9m Oshawa Generals (Bobby4Ever)
$63.0m Vancouver Voodoo (GoNucks)
$62.7m Victoria Dead Hookers (Loch)
$62.4m Guelph Storm (havanablast21)
$60.9m Flint Firebirds (Pit Bulls)
...
$58.8m District-5 Ducks (evans334)
$56.7m Wheeling Nailers (Brosive)
...
$49.6m Hartford Whalers (Savvy1982)
$48.8m Braham Pietasters (glorybe23)
$41.7m Manitoba Moose (GinFizz)
...
$35.0m London Nationals (VintageVibe)


It will be interesting to see if CAP HIT totals have any correlation to end-of-season finish.
A couple teams look like they will be in serious cap struggle to get back under $100m, once 2015-2016 CAP HIT information is updated by Fantrax!!!

It indeed will be interesting. I don't think I will finish last at least... In about 4-5 years I should have 5 or 6 guys making $7+ million per.

[GretzkysMullet]

Hey, I have a scheduling related question…

For the first match up it is showing up as Oct. 7-11, so five days. There is only a game or two Sunday, so basically it amounts to 4. I really dislike short match ups like this because it is even more open to chance. Is it possible to combine that first, short week with the second? I think lots of leagues start the year like that. Haven't looked at the rest of the schedule, but are there are any more short weeks like that? Also, it looks like we go right to the final game of the season. This can be an issue with players getting rested for the NHL playoffs. Could we shorten our current 23 week regular season schedule to 20 so that we end up with no short weeks and we have a week or two grace period to make sure players getting rested isn't a factor in our playoff finals?

[GinFizz]

Hey, I have a scheduling related question…

For the first match up it is showing up as Oct. 7-11, so five days. There is only a game or two Sunday, so basically it amounts to 4. I really dislike short match ups like this because it is even more open to chance. Is it possible to combine that first, short week with the second? I think lots of leagues start the year like that. Haven't looked at the rest of the schedule, but are there are any more short weeks like that? Also, it looks like we go right to the final game of the season. This can be an issue with players getting rested for the NHL playoffs. Could we shorten our current 23 week regular season schedule to 20 so that we end up with no short weeks and we have a week or two grace period to make sure players getting rested isn't a factor in our playoff finals?

Pfft.. you are just scared to face the Moose............

[Pengwin7]

Hey, I have a scheduling related question…

For the first match up it is showing up as Oct. 7-11, so five days. There is only a game or two Sunday, so basically it amounts to 4. I really dislike short match ups like this because it is even more open to chance. Is it possible to combine that first, short week with the second? I think lots of leagues start the year like that. Haven't looked at the rest of the schedule, but are there are any more short weeks like that? Also, it looks like we go right to the final game of the season. This can be an issue with players getting rested for the NHL playoffs. Could we shorten our current 23 week regular season schedule to 20 so that we end up with no short weeks and we have a week or two grace period to make sure players getting rested isn't a factor in our playoff finals?

It's a good question.

I think the absolute fairest thing to do is to play each opponent once each.
As soon as we entertain anything but that... it really gets unfair.

Yes - it sucks to have a 5-day NHL week... but so does your opponent.
Yes - it sucks when your players are benched in those last few NHL games of the regular season... but it sucks for your opponent too.
It sucks, but it's fair.

Playing a 20-week schedule... I've seen it... teams are gonna say "I didn't get to play the two weakest teams... and the team that finished ahead of me did."
That's not fair.

With 24 teams, we will have a 23-week regular season.
The first week is only 5 days of NHL games (with only 1 NHL game on Sunday)... it sucks, yes.
The Christmas week is usually only 4 days of NHL games (NHL teams don't play Dec 24/25/26)... that could suck for some teams, yes.

But I'm adamant about a fair schedule, which is only achieved playing every opponent once.
The final H2H match-up is TWO full weeks... and yes, some key players get benched by their NHL teams.
But I like matches being decided on the final day of the NHL season - also all 30 NHL teams play that day and we all have 6 on our bench... so there should be enough to roster, maybe just not the superstars.

[GinFizz]

*quickly checking to see who i play Christmas week

[VintageVibe]

It's a good question.

I think the absolute fairest thing to do is to play each opponent once each.
As soon as we entertain anything but that... it really gets unfair.

Yes - it sucks to have a 5-day NHL week... but so does your opponent.
Yes - it sucks when your players are benched in those last few NHL games of the regular season... but it sucks for your opponent too.
It sucks, but it's fair.

Playing a 20-week schedule... I've seen it... teams are gonna say "I didn't get to play the two weakest teams... and the team that finished ahead of me did."
That's not fair.

With 24 teams, we will have a 23-week regular season.
The first week is only 5 days of NHL games (with only 1 NHL game on Sunday)... it sucks, yes.
The Christmas week is usually only 4 days of NHL games (NHL teams don't play Dec 24/25/26)... that could suck for some teams, yes.

But I'm adamant about a fair schedule, which is only achieved playing every opponent once.
The final H2H match-up is TWO full weeks... and yes, some key players get benched by their NHL teams.
But I like matches being decided on the final day of the NHL season - also all 30 NHL teams play that day and we all have 6 on our bench... so there should be enough to roster, maybe just not the superstars.

I'm with you on all of the above, Pengwin.

[GoNucks]

Anyone looking to dump salary with the new 2015-16 salaries coming in let me know

[GretzkysMullet]

It's a good question.

I think the absolute fairest thing to do is to play each opponent once each.
As soon as we entertain anything but that... it really gets unfair.

Yes - it sucks to have a 5-day NHL week... but so does your opponent.
Yes - it sucks when your players are benched in those last few NHL games of the regular season... but it sucks for your opponent too.
It sucks, but it's fair.

Playing a 20-week schedule... I've seen it... teams are gonna say "I didn't get to play the two weakest teams... and the team that finished ahead of me did."
That's not fair.

With 24 teams, we will have a 23-week regular season.
The first week is only 5 days of NHL games (with only 1 NHL game on Sunday)... it sucks, yes.
The Christmas week is usually only 4 days of NHL games (NHL teams don't play Dec 24/25/26)... that could suck for some teams, yes.

But I'm adamant about a fair schedule, which is only achieved playing every opponent once.
The final H2H match-up is TWO full weeks... and yes, some key players get benched by their NHL teams.
But I like matches being decided on the final day of the NHL season - also all 30 NHL teams play that day and we all have 6 on our bench... so there should be enough to roster, maybe just not the superstars.

Yeah, that makes sense. I didn't take playing each team into account before I posted, and clearly that could be an even bigger issue. Neither short match ups, or resting in the finals is enough to trump that.