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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Guru View Post
    Coach before GM is just stupid.
    Apparently, the Caps are worried about losing Trotz to another team before getting another GM.
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    Or maybe Trotz knows it's down to 2 or 3 guys and knows them?

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    Any GM would be glad to have Trotz anyway

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    If Kariya can get 85 points, Ovechkin can get 90. But he can probably kiss 100 goodbye, and there are some coaches out there who I know would get 100 out of him.
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    Maybe they want to make sure they land Trots before his torso swallows his head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dobber View Post
    If Kariya can get 85 points, Ovechkin can get 90. But he can probably kiss 100 goodbye, and there are some coaches out there who I know would get 100 out of him.
    And why can he kiss 100 goodbye? If he fails to get 100 it's on him not the coach.

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    And why can he kiss 100 goodbye?
    Because he lacks the motivation to take his game to the next level offensively, and there are probably only one or two coaches on the planet who could coax that out of him. Trotz isn't one of them.

    If he fails to get 100 it's on him not the coach.
    Obviously. I probably needed another asterisk and some fine print to explain the obvious again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dobber View Post
    Because he lacks the motivation to take his game to the next level offensively, and there are probably only one or two coaches on the planet who could coax that out of him. Trotz isn't one of them.


    Obviously. I probably needed another asterisk and some fine print to explain the obvious again.
    No it's not obvious when you say something like this:

    So there you have it. Can Ovechkin and Backstrom even reach the 80-point mark under him?

    You're saying Trotz won't allow Ovechkin to reach 100, I say the opposite. People respect Trotz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dobber View Post
    If Kariya can get 85 points, Ovechkin can get 90. But he can probably kiss 100 goodbye, and there are some coaches out there who I know would get 100 out of him.
    which coaces? boudreau? babcock?
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    which coaces? boudreau? babcock?
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    Quote Originally Posted by praba View Post
    which coaces? boudreau? babcock?

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    Again, I reiterate, Trotz is a VERY good coach, I'd be very surprised if he doesn't have some good ideas for how to maximize Ovechkin. Think of it logically, Ovie is never going to be a strong 2-way player, it's just not his style so the best course of action is to work on making him just play with some basic responsibility and focus on what he does do really well, which is scoring goals. The more Ovie gets to play the style that he loves to play, the more he's going to be motivated to improve his overall game. I think the mistake coaches have made with him is trying to force him to be something he's not, let him be Ovie and subtly work on his shortcomings, I gurantee he'll be happier and more productive and the team will be better off overall. It doesn't need to be that complicated really, you've got some of the softest hands in the league in Backstrom feeding an elite sniper, take that for what it is and build around it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Ev View Post
    So there you have it. Can Ovechkin and Backstrom even reach the 80-point mark under him?

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    You're saying Trotz won't allow Ovechkin to reach 100, I say the opposite.
    *not saying this at all. I said that Trotz won't coax 100 from him. But he could certainly do it himself. Stay with me


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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Ev View Post
    Not this crap again. Ovechkin will be the same damn player he always is.
    Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Username View Post
    Trotz has won one playoff series in his 15-season NHL head coach career, so he'll fit right in with the losers in Washington.
    I think this say a lot about Trotz and its not good. He's had some pretty decent players over the years.

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