Offer on the table: what should I do?

[CHunter]

Here's an offer I got:

My Eberle and Shattenkirk

For

His Kunitz and JVR


Thoughts?

[poolsharks]

I would not do that if I was you . Eberle> JVR ... Shattenkirk > Kunitz(age factor). Plus you're thin on D . I'd love to own Shattenkirk in mine .

[als_revenge]

Personally, I like JVR better than Eberle. But the rest of that deal seems awful, especially for a team that's thin on D.

Your trading partner doesn't seem very bright; if he wants Shattenkirk he should know enough to toss a D-man into that deal.

[mister_mcgoo]

I'd stick with what you got already

[zipper14]

I'm going to go the other way. The cap space difference makes this deal good for you. In a cap league Kunitz is the best value you can get (70 points for $3.8 million), while Eberle is among the worst (65 points for $6 million).

It would be tough to give up Shattenkirk, but if your league only uses 16 D-men, I imagine your FA pool is pretty decent.

I would also assume you are adding JVR and dropping Marchand or Stewart, which would probably be an upgrade to your forward corps in a points only league. With your cap savings you might also be able to drop Marchand AND Stewart and add a more expensive forward.

[MXHockey]

I'm going to go the other way. The cap space difference makes this deal good for you. In a cap league Kunitz is the best value you can get (70 points for $3.8 million), while Eberle is among the worst (65 points for $6 million).

It would be tough to give up Shattenkirk, but if your league only uses 16 D-men, I imagine your FA pool is pretty decent.

I would also assume you are adding JVR and dropping Marchand or Stewart, which would probably be an upgrade to your forward corps in a points only league. With your cap savings you might also be able to drop Marchand AND Stewart and add a more expensive forward.

This rationale makes the most sense to me, especially in a points only league, and agreed that there must be a ton of dmen on the wire of available in the re-draft.

The only piece I would look at is where are you today in terms of contending - as you are moving two young pieces (two years from now Kunitz will be a 40-50 point player and Eberle will be in his prime). If you are in a win soon mode, then this deal may make sense, if you're not there yet I would hold.

[als_revenge]

It would be tough to give up Shattenkirk, but if your league only uses 16 D-men, I imagine your FA pool is pretty decent.

Not sure if this changes your analysis, but 8 team league x 3 D = 24 D that count. And at Keep 17, hard to say, but the number might be slightly higher or lower than that. Going into the season with Schultz as his only D seems a bit worrying to me...

[CHunter]

I can tell you that there's a lot of D available on the WW....all the other GMs are looking for cheap options as they don't want to spend to much money on D....I already have to drop 2 fwds and 1 G and I also have to grab 1 D from the WW....I'm wondering if JVR will continue to go up and hit 70-75 pts and if Eberle will reach 80??.....Shattenkirk is a 45-50 pts max guy for me....so I think Kunitz may do more for the same price.....

Since I can grab some Ds at a cheaper price for maybe 30-35 pts.....my first look to the deal was:

Eberle = JVR
Kunitz > Shattenkirk (since there's a lot of possibilities for D at 30-35 pts with some $$ saved)


but I wonder if Eberle will ever be a 85 pts guy in the league.....

[zipper14]

I can tell you that there's a lot of D available on the WW....all the other GMs are looking for cheap options as they don't want to spend to much money on D....I already have to drop 2 fwds and 1 G and I also have to grab 1 D from the WW....I'm wondering if JVR will continue to go up and hit 70-75 pts and if Eberle will reach 80??.....Shattenkirk is a 45-50 pts max guy for me....so I think Kunitz may do more for the same price.....

Since I can grab some Ds at a cheaper price for maybe 30-35 pts.....my first look to the deal was:

Eberle = JVR
Kunitz > Shattenkirk (since there's a lot of possibilities for D at 30-35 pts with some $$ saved)


but I wonder if Eberle will ever be a 85 pts guy in the league.....

I think you nailed it here. This is a win now deal. Kunitz is the most valuable player in the deal right now, but Eberle could take off. Given that, I would take the risk. Edmonton has shown no signs of turning things around; its potential stars need to show me something before I start buying their $6 million dollar salaries. I have RNH in one of my cap leagues and I'm afraid of his salary weighing me down.

[Magicstew]

Issue may be what changes are going to happen in Pitt over summer, and is this the year Edm makes a move. Think I would keep Eberle - just for the upside.
Try and trade Shattenkirk if there is good players available on WW.