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    The guy who owns Taylor Hall in our 20 team league faltered this year due to poor goaltending and no scoring from the defense. I think he may break if the deal is right. This is what I thought of offering:

    My top pick in 2014 (top 4 depending on lottery), Eddie Lack, Cody Ceci, Jacob Silfverberg

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    His top pick in 2014 (7th) and Taylor Hall.

    Am I giving up too much?? This is for the team in my sig, so feel free to make suggestions. Thanks.
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    I don't think you've offered near enough to get the other GM to part with Hall. Hall is already producing at a PPG pace and will likely continue to for many years to come. I do like the guys you're offering, especially in a 20 team league, but I don't think Lack necessarily is Vancouver's starting goalie for much longer. He may be, but I am sure that in dealing Luongo, the Canucks were looking at having Markstrom as their goalie of the future. Lack may become the #1 guy in Vancouver, but there is too much uncertainty at this juncture.

    If you trade Lack now, you're goaltending will be awful because I really don't think Lehner is Ottawa's starter next year. By Christmas or by the trade deadline, that may be another matter.

    You also want his 1st rounder, which, although not top 4, is still a pretty good pick overall. By asking for such another high pick back, I really don't think the other GM is the least bit interested. Star players like Hall in such a large league are gold.

    If I am the other GM, we're not even having a serious conversation unless you're willing to throw in MacKinnon + and for you, that probably becomes a non-starter.

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    Yea, not nearly enough IMO. Actually this is one where I think the other owner could get upset from it being so far off.

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    Proven vs unproven. I wouldn't do that deal if I was the other GM. Your youngsters may be good some day and maybe it would depend if he was rebuilding but Hall isn't exactly old either.
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    I own Hall in a 16 teamer and that would get a quick rejection from me. Not sold on lack with a new gm and coach and silf hasnt done much in Ana.
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    I don't see this helping his goalies or D at all. Now this kind of offer might interest him though it still is likely not enough considering how good of a scorer Hall is at such a young age.

    My top pick in 2014 (top 4 depending on lottery), Eddie Lack, Barrie/Trouba, Jacob Silfverberg

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    I never said it was a good deal for him...LOL. Upon further reflection, I have to agree with everything you guys said, and may have to up the offer to have him consider this at all. Any other suggestions besides throwing in MacKinnon (Nope) and or replacing Ceci with Trouba or Barrie??
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    Your original offer is bordering on insulting for a PPG player of Hall's calibre. Step up the offer and get serious if you want Hall, no decent manager even thinks of trading him for what you are offering.
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    You got to give more if you want a guy like Hall.....at least a near ppg player and a youngster I think....Hall is already producing at a ppg rate.....

    Since you don't have near ppg player as for now and Mack should be a lock for you, it will be difficult to get Hall on your side....
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    Horrible offer. I'd decline and block your email address and cell phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by havanablast21 View Post
    Horrible offer. I'd decline and block your email address and cell phone.
    I'd not only do the above, but I'd also find out where you live and egg your house.
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    Offer him Lack AND John Gibson.
    Now is the ideal time to see if that flies.

    But I agree with others, the current offer is too low.
    Try the Gibson thing though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    Offer him Lack AND John Gibson.
    Now is the ideal time to see if that flies.
    I like this idea, and maybe throw in Trouba too. Given your other defenseman and your league being a points-only, I think Trouba is expendable.

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    Lack and Gibson as a package is certainly an interesting proposition. What about Lack and Lehner, or because Lehner may be closer to being ready, is that too much?

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    Outside of Mackinnon, I would be surprised if he moved Hall for any of your assets. If he's competing then he wants legit players and not prospects on his roster.
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