Do not give Malkin away in this deal for such little return.
League in sig, contemplating a potential deal, curious to how close you think the value is
Evgeni Malkin, Brandon Sutter, Martin Erat, Erik Cole, Simon Despres, Ilya Bryzgalov, Cal Heeter, 2015 3rd
for
Jeff Carter, Brad Marchand, Wayne Simmonds, Cam Atkinson, Mike Smith
Am I asking too much for Malkin out of the gate? Kind of feel like I am, but I've never had him on the block, and I've never traded him away in a keeper, so not sure of the value here.
Do not give Malkin away in this deal for such little return.
The value is really that far off?
I thought a deal like this would take my team from a playoff team to a legit contender this year. From my observation, in 20+ team leagues, team depth trumps teams with a superstar or 2 and a mediocre supporting cast (aka my current team make-up). Maybe my team's recent encounter with the injury bug has me a bit too eager to sacrifice quality for quantity, though.
No way would I do that deal, dynasty or not.
dont throw away malkin. not even close.
10 team Full Keeper Roto League
4C-4LW-4RW-6D-2G-5bench-unlimited farm.
C= eichel,horvat,malkin,kuznetsov
LW= forsberg,kreider,lee,b.tkchuch,hertle,granlund
RW= reinhart,radulov,hoffman,laine,hayes
D= doughty,ghostebehere,karlsson,jones,klefbom,dahlin ,skjei
G= price,murray,grubauer,georgiev,ullmark,samsonov
under250gp=nichushkin,tuch,mathesson,marino,pujuja rvi,hosang,terry,andersson,j.hughes,patrik,crouse, zadina,podkolzin,k.miller,nedeljkovic,kravtsov,hay ton
--G,A,P,PPP,SHP,GWG,PIMS,+/-,SOG,hits,FOW,blks-Wins,GAA,SV%,saves,SO
You can definitely get more than that for Malkin. I don't mind the idea of moving him to increase your depth in a large league, but you need at least one Top 10 player coming back to you plus the sort of supporting cast you've asked for.
Without me, it's only "aweso".
Like 4T2 said, trading Malkin to increase your depth is a good idea, but you're not increasing your depth enough. If you need to trade Malkin, you need to get an excellent return. That's not an excellent return and it's not even close.
Writer of the weekly Top 10 column.
12-team Keeper pool, straight points for forwards & dmen. Goalies get: 2 points per win, 3 per shutout, 1 point per assist & 1 point per shootout loss.
League champ in 2013, 2015, 2018, 2020 and 2022.
Top 8 forwards, 5 dmen and 2 goalies count.
We keep 15 players (any position) plus two rookies.
Forwards: Panarin, Ovechkin, Kopitar, Stamkos, Tuch, Rust, Marchessault, Pavelski, Miller, Bertuzzi, Stone, Kakko, Brown, Stankoven, Kovalenko
Defence: Hedman, Fox, Matheson, Thrun, Jiricek
Goalies: Kochetkov, Talbot, Vasilevskiy, Campbell, Schmid
Take away all the useless names and this trade is:
Malkin
vs
Smith, Carter, Marchand, Simmonds, Atkinson
The problem here is not the added depth but the issue with quality vs quantity. I would prefer a deal that sees 3 players come back for Malkin and have a bit more ''punch'' than the names listed.
A minimal return would be a top 10-15 goalie, a top 10-15 player and a promising young player (i.e. Smith, Getzlaf and Landeskog). Once again, this is what I consider the bare minimum, but I'm sure some may want to give you more for arguably a top 3 player.
The best deal would be 2 players in the top 10 range for Malkin (i.e. P. Kane and Giroux), but I would still prefer to keep EM.
Therefore, I would personally NOT make the deal for the 5 listed players if I were you.
Keeper league 14 teams (H2H, 20 active players keep 16 NHLers, 16 minors)
Scoring Cats: G-A-PTS-PPG-PPA-(+/-)-HITS-BLK-SHP-SOG-FOW-GWG / W-L-SVS-SV%-GAA-SO
C- Crosby, Barzal, Bennett, Schmaltz, Novak
W- Forsberg, Batherson, Nichuskin, Tuch, Konecny, Maccelli, Sharangovich, Bertuzzi, Kaliyev, Neighbours, Reichel
D- Carlson, Rielly, Klingberg
G- Hellebuyck, Demko, Merzlikins, Vejmelka
Minors:
F: Fantilli, Cooley, Bourgault, Perreault, Cowan, Ohgren, N. Foote, Goyette, Iskhakov, Denisenko, Tracey
D: Simashev, Willander, Lambos
G: Schmidt, Rodrigue, DiPietro, Gaudreau, McKay
no way you move Geno for that, you should be getting at least 1 top 10 guy + something like a top 20-30 guy to start the converstaion for him in a dynasty.
12 Team H2H Dynasty
22 Players 3C 3L 3R 1Util 4D 2G 6BN
(G) (A) (+/-) (PIM) (PPP) (FW) (HIT) (W) (GAA) (SV%) (SHO)
C: R Getzlaf, C Giroux, Scheifele, T Bozak
LW: T Vanek, B Ryan, P Marleau, T Hall
RW: C Perry, K Okposo, A Ovechkin, Kucherov
D: D Byfuglien, Z Chara, E Karlsson, R Josi, D Keith, Trouba
G: R Luongo, B Holtby, K Lehtonen
Farm: Lack, Wennberg, Hellbucyk, Ho-Sang, Milano, Burakovsky, Sanheim
2012-2013 and 2013-2014 league champ
Thanks for all the advice. Looks like I'll just hang onto him and work on building depth other ways.