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    So I've been out of fantasy hockey for a couple of years and joined a small H2H league this year. Sorry in advance for the long explanation of my dilemma!

    League settings are in my sig. I have 1st overall pick in the draft tonight and I'm struggling with choices a bit. I have my draft rankings based on the dobber rankings run through hockeygeeks for league settings, and then re-ranked using VBD for the roster size of the league. No matter how I slice the rankings OV is first overall, but I'm worried he may bolt to Russia sooner or later and don't really like the risk. With VBD factored in, goalies end up as 2-6 in the rankings, and a run in 1st or 2nd round will leave me with really limited options in net at 16. The only other player I would consider is Stamkos:

    Options and current concern:
    • Ovechkin - Could split to Russia, focused on Olympics?
    • Stamkos - New divisions are going to be much harder for Tampa to score
    • Goalie - Lundqvist / Rask / Rinne - I don't like the Rangers schedule to start the season, so this would probably come down to a choice of Rask or Rinne which feels like a waste with the 1st pick.
    10 Team H2H, 3 Keepers. Weekly lock.

    G, A, +/-, GWG, SOG, FOW, PPP, SHP, ATOI, Hits, Blocked Shots, Penalty Minutes, Wins, GAA, SV%, SO.

    3C - Tavares, Backes, Barkov
    3LW - Benn, E. Kane, Huberdeau
    3RW - Okposo, Voracek, Kucherov
    1F - Seguin
    4D - Klingberg, Myers, Savard, Ekblad
    1Util Simmonds
    2G - Raask, Schneider

    4 Bench: Granlund, S Jones, Spurgeon, Horvat
    IR: Boychuk

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    Of the choices you named I would easily take Stamkos. Although if Crosby is available I would take him over both of them.

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    Yup, Agree with Matt
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    Any new keeper league:
    1. Crosby
    2. Stamkos

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    +1 Crosby, Stamkos
    L1: 14T keep 10 H2H 12F/6D/2G/3B
    P Cats: g/a/+/-/pim/sog/bs/stp/hits
    G Cats: w/sv/so/gaa/sv%

    F: tarasenko,yamamoto,p kane,backstrom, zuccarello,gourde,lafreniere,w karlsson,iafallo,bunting,khaira,brown,pageau,vorac ek, palat,verhaeghe
    D: klingberg,theodore,gudas,burns
    G: varlomov,talbot,shesterkin
    IR: radulov,pettersson


    L2: 10T keep 10 H2H
    P Cats: g/a/+/-/pim/sog/bs/stp/hits
    G Cats: w/sv/so/gaa/sv%

    F: w. karlsson,mcdavid,kreider,nylander,hoffman,giroux,d ebrincat,reinhart,hintz,verhaeghe,tuch,iafallo,tol vanen,robertson
    D: klingberg,trouba,yandle,faulk,letang
    G: shesterkin,sorokin,lankinen,lehner
    IR: seguin,petterson,fleury

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    I'm still a true believer that your best bet in a league like yours is Ovechkin. He won't split. He'll get you a ton of goals, PPP, hits, etc.
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    Neither...take Crosby

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    For me personally, Keeper League therefore Crosby - End of discussion.
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    Skaters: G, A, +/-, PPP, SOG, Hits
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    LW: Forsberg, Parise
    RW: Gallagher, Hornqvist, D Brown, Kessel
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    Crosby. Crosby. Crosby. If you count FOW and ATOI on top of all the regular categories there is no way on earth you do not draft Crosby first.

    DRAFT CROSBY.

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    Thanks for the feedback all - the basically unanimous vote for Crosby was plenty to convince me to get over my aversion to band aid boys. Here is the team I ended up with:

    C: Crosby, E. Staal
    LW: Neal, Nash
    RW: St. Louis, Brouwer
    F: Kesler, Dubinsky, Weiss
    D: Kronwall, Johnson, Pietrangelo, Edler
    Util: Ott
    G: Rinne, Holtby
    BN: Hartnell, Grabovski, Gudas, Nugent-Hopkins(IR), Pavelec


    Thoughts?
    10 Team H2H, 3 Keepers. Weekly lock.

    G, A, +/-, GWG, SOG, FOW, PPP, SHP, ATOI, Hits, Blocked Shots, Penalty Minutes, Wins, GAA, SV%, SO.

    3C - Tavares, Backes, Barkov
    3LW - Benn, E. Kane, Huberdeau
    3RW - Okposo, Voracek, Kucherov
    1F - Seguin
    4D - Klingberg, Myers, Savard, Ekblad
    1Util Simmonds
    2G - Raask, Schneider

    4 Bench: Granlund, S Jones, Spurgeon, Horvat
    IR: Boychuk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    Any new keeper league:
    1. Crosby
    2. Stamkos
    I agree whit those last 2 post...
    10teams H2H keep 12 dress 3C,3LW,3RW,6D,2G,2uti+4bench
    G,A,PIM,PPP,SOG,HIT,BS,W,L,GAA,SV%
    C:GETZ,Pavelski,Rakell,Brassard
    RW:P.Kane,Tarasenko,Wheeler,Silfverberg,Brown
    LW:Paciorety,Mantha,Panik,Namestnikov
    D:OEL,Burns,Josi,BUFF,E.Johnson,Sergachev,Mcavoy
    G:Holtby,Dubnyk,Budaj

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    Quote Originally Posted by topoftheworld View Post
    Thanks for the feedback all - the basically unanimous vote for Crosby was plenty to convince me to get over my aversion to band aid boys. Here is the team I ended up with:

    C: Crosby, E. Staal
    LW: Neal, Nash
    RW: St. Louis, Brouwer
    F: Kesler, Dubinsky, Weiss
    D: Kronwall, Johnson, Pietrangelo, Edler
    Util: Ott
    G: Rinne, Holtby
    BN: Hartnell, Grabovski, Gudas, Nugent-Hopkins(IR), Pavelec


    Thoughts?
    That is a pretty good team good luck...
    10teams H2H keep 12 dress 3C,3LW,3RW,6D,2G,2uti+4bench
    G,A,PIM,PPP,SOG,HIT,BS,W,L,GAA,SV%
    C:GETZ,Pavelski,Rakell,Brassard
    RW:P.Kane,Tarasenko,Wheeler,Silfverberg,Brown
    LW:Paciorety,Mantha,Panik,Namestnikov
    D:OEL,Burns,Josi,BUFF,E.Johnson,Sergachev,Mcavoy
    G:Holtby,Dubnyk,Budaj

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    Bench Brower, slot Kessel in on the wing and get Hartnell in your active lineup!

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    Good team.

    I think Brouwer will come back to earth but you have a good mix of solid contributers with higher ceilings.

    Never been a Holtby guy, but it seems people believe in him (including Stevie Y with the Olympic Camp invite).

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    Quote Originally Posted by topoftheworld View Post
    So I've been out of fantasy hockey for a couple of years and joined a small H2H league this year. Sorry in advance for the long explanation of my dilemma!

    League settings are in my sig. I have 1st overall pick in the draft tonight and I'm struggling with choices a bit. I have my draft rankings based on the dobber rankings run through hockeygeeks for league settings, and then re-ranked using VBD for the roster size of the league. No matter how I slice the rankings OV is first overall, but I'm worried he may bolt to Russia sooner or later and don't really like the risk. With VBD factored in, goalies end up as 2-6 in the rankings, and a run in 1st or 2nd round will leave me with really limited options in net at 16. The only other player I would consider is Stamkos:

    Options and current concern:
    • Ovechkin - Could split to Russia, focused on Olympics?
    • Stamkos - New divisions are going to be much harder for Tampa to score
    • Goalie - Lundqvist / Rask / Rinne - I don't like the Rangers schedule to start the season, so this would probably come down to a choice of Rask or Rinne which feels like a waste with the 1st pick.
    My top 5 to choose from would be:

    #1. Sidney Crosby
    #2. Steven Stamkos
    #3. Alex Ovechkin
    #4. John Tavares
    #5. Henrik Lundqvist

    Now if this was a keeper league I would go a little different and my top goalie to pick from would be Rask and I would pick Tavares over Ovechkin

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