Who would you pick as keeper James Neal or Taylor Hall?

[Magnum]

Malkin has something to prove this year...and no better benefactor then Neal. May top 90 pts if healthy.

[Mattp913]

Neal is probably a better producer right now for this format but I don't think that means I could take him over Hall.

[tomastop]

I agree with the majority here... Hall for me, thank you.

[mooseknuckles]

just going over their last 3 years and using only the goal and assists scoring in your cats this is what I see:

Hall:

g a pts
13 68 81
24 52 76
19 40 59

Neal:

g a pts
63 30 93
120 82 202
66 48 114

Not sure that Hall is that much better in all the other cats but those #s above tell me that Neal is the guy to stick with!

[horrorfan]

just going over their last 3 years and using only the goal and assists scoring in your cats this is what I see:

Hall:

g a pts
13 68 81
24 52 76
19 40 59

Neal:

g a pts
63 30 93
120 82 202
66 48 114

Not sure that Hall is that much better in all the other cats but those #s above tell me that Neal is the guy to stick with!

Not sure where you get Hall's numbers from. It should be:

48+68=118
81+52=133
66+40=104

But the most important production to look at is recently, because now Hall is growing into an elite player.

118 for Hall vs 93 for Neal last season.

Pro-rate to a full season and that's 29 goals and 62 assists = 87+124=211. Which is already higher than Neal's 2011/12 season. Can Hall score more than 29 goals - absolutely and that would propel him even higher. Sure, the assists may not be as high, but I would bet on a 90 point season (say 40-50, equal to 120+100=220 in your format) for Hall over that for Neal.

However, hits and the other cats may change the totals so...

Pmkidd - what are the fantasy points for each of them last season (and pro-rate up to a full season to compare with 11/12 for Neal)? Per game numbers would help as well as this is a H2H league.

Also, a suggestion for possible future threads, be sure to provide the total numbers (+ per game) so we don't have to do the calculations for you. This is always helpful when discussing points leagues. This would also give us a clearer picture of their real value from the start.

[pmkidd]

Not sure where you get Hall's numbers from. It should be:

48+68=118
81+52=133
66+40=104

But the most important production to look at is recently, because now Hall is growing into an elite player.

118 for Hall vs 93 for Neal last season.

Pro-rate to a full season and that's 29 goals and 62 assists = 87+124=211. Which is already higher than Neal's 2011/12 season. Can Hall score more than 29 goals - absolutely and that would propel him even higher. Sure, the assists may not be as high, but I would bet on a 90 point season (say 40-50, equal to 120+100=220 in your format) for Hall over that for Neal.

However, hits and the other cats may change the totals so...

Pmkidd - what are the fantasy points for each of them last season (and pro-rate up to a full season to compare with 11/12 for Neal)? Per game numbers would help as well as this is a H2H league.

Also, a suggestion for possible future threads, be sure to provide the total numbers (+ per game) so we don't have to do the calculations for you. This is always helpful when discussing points leagues. This would also give us a clearer picture of their real value from the start.

Last year Hall had 149 FPTS in 45 games and Neal had 145.25 FPTS in 40 games

[The Bottlenecker]

Last year's ppg pace was no fluke, and he will get better as the kids in Edmonton get better around him.

[horrorfan]

Last year Hall had 149 FPTS in 45 games and Neal had 145.25 FPTS in 40 games

What did Neal have in 2011/12?

Hall in a full season would be 149/45 x 82 = 271

That would be a more relevant comparison, if we assume both have very good seasons, to see how much the peripherals affect their totals. I expect Neal to be better than his 12/13, but Hall could go even higher than his last year as well (or at least more goal heavy).