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    So I had it all figured out. Luongo was going to be traded and Schneider would be an easy top 10 goalie this year.....

    With the trade to NJ, Schneider will again in a 1a/1b situation this year, I'm not sure what to do. As a contending team, I don't want to be burdened with the 1a/1b situation. In our league we start 2 goalies. Schneider or Markstrom will be my #2. In this limited keeper, I will draft a #1 in the first round, most likely to be a Fleury, Luongo, Howard, Ward, Miller, Price type goalie. Note: in our league, round drafted determines salary and salary dictates the round held for holds. High salary players require forfeiture of a high round pick/hold so many good player become available each year.

    These are my options:

    1. Hold Schneider, be burdened with 1a/1b for a year, then be in good shape.
    2. Trade Schneider plus a non-hold (Silfverberg) for Seguin (potentially). Hold Markstrom and be prepared for growing pains.
    3. Trade for Bobrovsky, none of my core players would be dealt.
    4. Hold no goalies, draft two early on.

    Please help.
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    Depending on the price Bobrovsky is probably your best option here. He is a solid number 1 goalie on an improving team. If he can be had for a reasonalbe price I would trade for him and draft another #1 goalie in the first round.
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    Schneider should see 50%-60% of starts.

    MArkstrom will have growing pains, and I am not confident that Fla won't rent a G for the year to help him out.

    I would trade for Bob (and hold onto Schneider). Bob should start most games and given his experience, is a safer bet for success this year than Markstrom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeler View Post
    1. Hold Schneider, be burdened with 1a/1b for a year, then be in good shape.
    IMO, your team doesn't look good enough to contend for a win.

    I'd do your best to build for next year. This means, hold Schneider.
    Grab the best goalie available in the 1st round and trade him during the regular season to a contender in a trade that lands you a good player that doesn't "cost" you in future draft pick value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeler View Post
    So I had it all figured out. Luongo was going to be traded and Schneider would be an easy top 10 goalie this year.....

    With the trade to NJ, Schneider will again in a 1a/1b situation this year, I'm not sure what to do. As a contending team, I don't want to be burdened with the 1a/1b situation. In our league we start 2 goalies. Schneider or Markstrom will be my #2. In this limited keeper, I will draft a #1 in the first round, most likely to be a Fleury, Luongo, Howard, Ward, Miller, Price type goalie. Note: in our league, round drafted determines salary and salary dictates the round held for holds. High salary players require forfeiture of a high round pick/hold so many good player become available each year.

    These are my options:

    1. Hold Schneider, be burdened with 1a/1b for a year, then be in good shape.
    2. Trade Schneider plus a non-hold (Silfverberg) for Seguin (potentially). Hold Markstrom and be prepared for growing pains.
    3. Trade for Bobrovsky, none of my core players would be dealt.
    4. Hold no goalies, draft two early on.

    Please help.
    Hold onto Schneider and go for Bob. He should provide solid value this year as you await the knighting of Schneider. The TSN panel said Brodeur should see 60% of the season, baring injury.
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    22 back to backs for the Devils this coming season as a comparison the Isles have 17 and the Rangers have 12

    the last part is obviously great news for Lundqvist owners, but the first part is great news for Schneider owners

    good old uncle lou probably doesn't have the heart to tell Brodeur that he needs to play fewer games going forward so he gets the league to set up a schedule which forces the issue
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucifer316 View Post
    22 back to backs for the Devils this coming season as a comparison the Isles have 17 and the Rangers have 12
    Damn... that was fast!
    How'd you do that?

    Do you have a tool you aren't telling us about?
    Or did you manually count them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    Damn... that was fast!
    How'd you do that?

    Do you have a tool you aren't telling us about?
    Or did you manually count them?
    Larry Brooks counted them for me

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    or someone counted them for Larry and he tweeted it
     
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    To provide clarity, I can only keep 1 goalie. In addition, my team will also contend. I generally keep players that offer excellent value based upon hold position, then draft good players that were not held due to salary. The formula works. In 10 years I've won 4 times and never finished lower than 4th.

    Thanks for the input....keep it coming. This goalie situation is bugging me.
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    F: Benn,Backstrm,Hall,Johansen,Wheeler,E.Kane,Landesk og,Hornqvist,Neal,Larkin,Bennett
    D: Subban,Hedman,Trouba,Burns,Vatanen,Phaneuf,Jones
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    Hold onto Schneider, wait for Brodeur to get his elbow injury, and reap the benefits of Schneider playing for a defense first system.
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    D: Werenski, C. Miller, C. Murphy, DeAngelo, J. Morrow, Edler

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    I would go with Option 2. As long as you can get a quality Goalie early to temper Markstroms growing pains, adding a guy like Seguin is an added bonus. I'm not convinced that Schneider can maintain his numbers in NJ, I see a drop off in SV% and an increase in GAA. I still think he will be an elite starter, but Markstrom should be as well.

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