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    just want to know if you guys think this is an overpayment or not before i go with a counter offer.

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    stamkos + cole + visnovsky

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    seguin + nash + letang

    dont think its too bad of a proposition but i dont want to be blinded and sell all my depth of stars for just one big fish.
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    well Viz is apparently seriously considering signing in the KHL so depending on what side of this you are on it might be a good idea or not

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    sorry dude just saw your PM now and noticed you already created a thread.

    Stamkos is my top rated player in a keeper, but having said that I think this would be a slight overpayment.

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    might be a bit of an overpayment but you almost always have to overpay for the big fish.
    i like the deal for you though.
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    D= doughty,ghostebehere,karlsson,jones,klefbom,dahlin ,skjei
    G= price,murray,grubauer,georgiev,ullmark,samsonov

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    yeah i was leaning to making the deal and if it sets me back a year then so be it i would be stronger in the long run.. but that was with me envisioning visnovsky as a 35+ contributor for a couple seasons before he either A.) KHL bound or B.) retires. Now that this rumor is up about visnovsky departing as soon as this season its kind of just cole + stamkos for the trio.

    @blayze all good man i figured screw it might as well make a thread and get as many opinions as i can if im moving so many pieces.
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    c-Tavares, Mackinnon Eichel
    rw-Seguin, Tarasenko
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    It's close. Can you receive a better D option than Visnovski?
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    W,GAA,SV,SV%,SHO

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    LW-Ehlers,Giroux,Panarin,Rust
    RW-Kucherov,Palmieri,Pastrnak,Wilson
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    G-Fleury,F.Andersen,Markstrom
    BN-Zacha

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    likely not, best i might be able to sub for is brodin or gormley, thrower

    even then he seems to value his prospects quite highly.
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    *2012-2013 & 2013-2014 Champ
    G A PIM +/- hits SOG PPP
    c-Tavares, Mackinnon Eichel
    rw-Seguin, Tarasenko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwazzie View Post
    likely not, best i might be able to sub for is brodin or gormley, thrower

    even then he seems to value his prospects quite highly.
    I think Brodin would be a significant upgrade on Vis right now. If you can sub him in then get it done. Either way, this deal will serve you well in the long run, but getting a talented young D like Brodin would make it just a bit sweeter.
    10 team full keeper roto 4C/LW/RW,6D,2G

    G,A,P,+/-,PIM,SOG,GWG,PPP,SHP,Hit,Blk,FOW
    W,GAA,SV,SV%,SHO

    C-Aho,Couturier,Matthews,O'Reilly
    LW-Ehlers,Giroux,Panarin,Rust
    RW-Kucherov,Palmieri,Pastrnak,Wilson
    D-Burns,Carlson,Gudas,Josi,Nurse,Pietrangelo
    G-Fleury,F.Andersen,Markstrom
    BN-Zacha

    Under 250 gp farm
    Beaucage,Berggren,Bokk,Brisson,Chytil,Dugan,Foerst er,Foote,Frost,Grewe,K.Johnson,Lindblom,Mikheyev,N ybeck,Peterka,Pospisil,Protas,Ranta,Raty,Stankoven ,Suzuki,Tuomaala
    Alexeyev,Brook,Foote,Graves,Poirier,Sanderson,Seid er,Wilde,Woo,Zamula
    Berdin,Brossoit,Commesso,Ersson,Husso,Knight,Koche tkov,Lafontaine,Oettinger,Primeau,Sandstrom,Stolar z,Ustimenko,Vladar

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    I would grab Stamkos. He is the best fantasy option.

    Viz should not be in the equation. Easy to replace him with a waiver wire option.

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    If this is for your middle team, with the five keepers, I suppose I'd do it b/c Stamkos IS a better bet than Seguin. But only because it makes that keeper position stronger...because I can't help but think the other two spots, for you, become much worse...albeit only over the course of one season.

    Stamkos is pretty durned good, but I think Seguin is going to be awfully sweet awfully soon.

    Add in that you're giving up a potential high goal guy in Nash and a top offensive dman in Letang and it would be really tough to tell you to make the trade.... unless the move is to improve that one keeper spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reuben View Post
    If this is for your middle team, with the five keepers, I suppose I'd do it b/c Stamkos IS a better bet than Seguin. But only because it makes that keeper position stronger...because I can't help but think the other two spots, for you, become much worse...albeit only over the course of one season.

    Stamkos is pretty durned good, but I think Seguin is going to be awfully sweet awfully soon.

    Add in that you're giving up a potential high goal guy in Nash and a top offensive dman in Letang and it would be really tough to tell you to make the trade.... unless the move is to improve that one keeper spot.

    it's for a different league and team not in sig... its a full keeper
    12 team h2h keep 5 + 1 goalie
    *2012-2013 & 2013-2014 Champ
    G A PIM +/- hits SOG PPP
    c-Tavares, Mackinnon Eichel
    rw-Seguin, Tarasenko
    d-Josi
    g-Schneider

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwazzie View Post
    it's for a different league and team not in sig... its a full keeper
    Ah. To be honest with you then - and I know the mantra of taking the best player, which is Stamkos - I wouldn't do it.

    Stamkos > Seguin..but the gap is going to get smaller

    And I can't help thinking Letang and Nash are WAY, WAY better than the two you'd be giving up.

    Nash is a legit, consistent 60-70pt guy with a chance to go higher.
    Letang, should he stay healthy, is in an unreal situation for the next 10years.

    I'd stay pat.

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    thank you everyone! i think i will pass for now on any stamkos deal, just too much to loose just for the big fish.

    might go after a tier below him number 1 center
    12 team h2h keep 5 + 1 goalie
    *2012-2013 & 2013-2014 Champ
    G A PIM +/- hits SOG PPP
    c-Tavares, Mackinnon Eichel
    rw-Seguin, Tarasenko
    d-Josi
    g-Schneider

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