Hey guys would like to land Giroux what would be a solid offer that might get him I was gonna package players with my 2013 and 2014 1st rd picks. My team is on the bottom and its a keeper dynasty that drops 4 each year. Lets see your ideas thanks!
Team Cupper
Fwds- Rantanen, J.Hughes, Zibanejad, Svechnikov, Debrincat, R.Thomas, B.Tkachuk, P.Dubois, S.Bennett, R.Strome, B.Nelson, C.Keller, A.Lafreniere, JVR, J.Farabee, A.Holtz, J.Toews, K.Yamamoto, K.Kapanen,
Def - Makar, Fox, Power, Sanderson, Ty Smith, OEL
Team- NYR,NJ, Cgy
8 Teams in league
Points
Fwds -Def
Points, ppg,shg,gwg,ppa,sha
Teams- Wins,otl,so
Def get 2 points for goals
Count- 12 fwds , 3Def, 2 Teams drop lowest 9
Drop 4 each year.
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UHL Dynasty St. Louis Blues
...playoffs, how the eff did I make the playoffs?
UDL Western Kings
...oh boy... this build is gonna be a while...
Not really just has interest in trading him but said it would take a good offer.
Team Cupper
Fwds- Rantanen, J.Hughes, Zibanejad, Svechnikov, Debrincat, R.Thomas, B.Tkachuk, P.Dubois, S.Bennett, R.Strome, B.Nelson, C.Keller, A.Lafreniere, JVR, J.Farabee, A.Holtz, J.Toews, K.Yamamoto, K.Kapanen,
Def - Makar, Fox, Power, Sanderson, Ty Smith, OEL
Team- NYR,NJ, Cgy
8 Teams in league
Points
Fwds -Def
Points, ppg,shg,gwg,ppa,sha
Teams- Wins,otl,so
Def get 2 points for goals
Count- 12 fwds , 3Def, 2 Teams drop lowest 9
Drop 4 each year.
Granlund, Galchenyuk, and the two first rounders?
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UHL Dynasty St. Louis Blues
...playoffs, how the eff did I make the playoffs?
UDL Western Kings
...oh boy... this build is gonna be a while...
Generally after a season like the one Giroux had, you're going to have to overpay, but you have some good pieces to make this deal happen.
As a rule, the biggest piece you give up has to be someone who's upside matches the player you're trading for's downside. So if you figure Giroux's low end value is 80 pts, then you need to pitch him somebody who's likely to roughly that, give or take 5 points. So you're looking for a 75pt guy. So we're talking Eberle, Hall, Landeskog, Eriksson, Duchene or maybe Pacioretty (ordered in terms of where I see their value, top to bottom).
Then you have to pay for the descripency between Giroux and the main piece you're offering. 2 firsts is good, but if you really want to seal this, I would suggest throwing in a prospect and use one of the firsts as a kicker. Then if need be, you can throw in a lower draft pick (2nd or 3rd) if he's really dragging his feet.
My suggestion: Try to move one of Duchene/Eriksson/Landeskog/Pacioretty coupled with Granlund and a 1st. It may feel like an overpayment, but thats the price you pay for top end talent. Way I see it, if you can get an equal or better return on your investment down the line, it was worth it. All about trade value.
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10 Team Roto Keeper League (G,A,PPP,SHP,GWG,+/-,PIM, SOG // W,SAVES,GAA,SV%,SO)
Full Keeper w/ Salary Cap [4C/4LW/4RW/6D/2G/5B, 82 gp per roster spot]
C: Crosby, Getzlaf, Ribeiro, Hodgson
LW: Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, Eriksson, Van Riemsdyk, Whitney
RW: Gaborik, Stewart, Read, Selanne, Alfredsson
D: Pietrangelo, Yandle, Edler, Wisniewski, E. Johnson, Whitney, Bieksa, Gardiner
G: Lundqvist, Bryzgalov, Schneider
Minor League:
Yakupov, Silfverberg, Bjugstad, Stone, Atkinson, J. Morrow, Palmieri, B. Smith, J. Bernier
id start with Pacioretty, Granlund and a 1st. be prepared to add a bit though.
10 team Full Keeper Roto League
4C-4LW-4RW-6D-2G-5bench-unlimited farm.
C= eichel,horvat,malkin,kuznetsov
LW= forsberg,kreider,lee,b.tkchuch,hertle,granlund
RW= reinhart,radulov,hoffman,laine,hayes
D= doughty,ghostebehere,karlsson,jones,klefbom,dahlin ,skjei
G= price,murray,grubauer,georgiev,ullmark,samsonov
under250gp=nichushkin,tuch,mathesson,marino,pujuja rvi,hosang,terry,andersson,j.hughes,patrik,crouse, zadina,podkolzin,k.miller,nedeljkovic,kravtsov,hay ton
--G,A,P,PPP,SHP,GWG,PIMS,+/-,SOG,hits,FOW,blks-Wins,GAA,SV%,saves,SO
Funny how a lot of suggestions have been referenced as overpayments. I see them all as lowball offers, personally.
For Giroux, I think you should start with what you would offer for Crosby, then dial it back two or three notches. That means at least one of Eberle or Hall must be in the offer... potentially both.
If you're realistic about grabbing Giroux, I would start with Eberle, one from the Duchene/Eriksson/Landeskog/Pacioretty group, and your 1st rounder in 2013 and 2014.
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15 GM Keeper League w/Roto Scoring (G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, HITS | W, GAA, SV%, SHO)
Start 4 C, 4 LW, 4 RW, 6 D, 2 G (23-man rosters) | Protect 10 players w/a max of 1 goalie
C - Crosby*, Malkin* (C/R), Tavares*, Giroux* (C/R)
L - Duchene* (C/L), Marleau* (C/L), Galchenyuk (C/L), Ott (C/L), Lee (C/L)
R - Kane* (C/R), St. Louis, Neil, Clutterbuck
D - Yandle*, Carlson*, Gardiner, Gudas, Daley, Bieksa, Schenn
G - Lundqvist*, Rinne, Kuemper
14 Team, Keep14 Farm5, 82GP Cap/Position
Skaters: Points only, Goalies 2ptWin/3ptSO
Start: 4C,4LW,4RW,6D,2G
C- Crosby, Zibanejad, Couturier, Zacha, Frost
LW- Marchand, Huberdeau, McTavish, Rackell, Kuzmenko
RW- Konecny, Necas, Caufield, Jarvis, Lafreniere
D- Hughes, Carlson, Werenski, Chychrun, Andersson, Dobson, Weegar
G- Andersen, Merzlikins, Daccord, Jones
Farm- Johnston, Foerster, Tarasov, Hutson, Reinbacher
Picks-1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,11
Whatever you do, I wouldn't part with your 2013 1st.
Dynasty - $100/yr buy-in - YEAR 8 - $100M CAP
G A PTS +/- PIM PPP SOG W GAA SV% SO
C - Crosby, Malkin, Getzlaf
LW - Pavelski, Domi
RW - Seguin, Perry
D - Letang, OEL, Carlson, Hamilton, J. Schultz
Util - M. Koivu, Aho, Spooner, Atkinson
G - Rask, Quick
BENCH
Brassard, Bjugstad, Jagr, Gallagher, N. Ritchie, Buchnevich, Ekblad, Beaulieu, Severson, Lundqvist
PROSPECT
Puljujarvi, Boeser, Barzal, Dal Colle, Fiala, Sergachev, Lindell
FOUR TIME DEFENDING CHAMPION
Obviously with your team you'd want so much more for Giroux... you're not hurting at all lol.
Are the other managers in your league ******ed? How do you have 4 of the best 6 players in the league(Crosby/Malkin/Tavares/Giroux), arguably 2 of the best 6 d-men, and the best goalie lol
12-team Rotisserie
G, A, +/-, PPG, PPA, SHG, SHA, SOG, FOW
W, saves, GAA, SV%, SO
2C-
2LW- Marchand
2RW- Giroux
4D- Rielly
2G- Bishop, Price
My league is strong... just a combination of shrewd drafting and clever trading. Short of giving you my draft and trade log (and it is fascinating because, man, did I inherit the most godawful team when I entered this league 12 years ago), I'll say the most important thing is knowing that, in order to get value you have to be prepared to give up value... which brings us back to this thread.
Giroux is worth more than what everyone here is suggesting. He's basically a lite version of Crosby and Chelios, rolled up into one.
p.s. What will really blow your mind is that I had Stamkos for the first two years of his career, as well... traded him away (again, to get value you have to be prepared to give up value).
15 GM Keeper League w/Roto Scoring (G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, HITS | W, GAA, SV%, SHO)
Start 4 C, 4 LW, 4 RW, 6 D, 2 G (23-man rosters) | Protect 10 players w/a max of 1 goalie
C - Crosby*, Malkin* (C/R), Tavares*, Giroux* (C/R)
L - Duchene* (C/L), Marleau* (C/L), Galchenyuk (C/L), Ott (C/L), Lee (C/L)
R - Kane* (C/R), St. Louis, Neil, Clutterbuck
D - Yandle*, Carlson*, Gardiner, Gudas, Daley, Bieksa, Schenn
G - Lundqvist*, Rinne, Kuemper
I traded for Giroux a couple of weeks ago.
I gave up Eberle a 1st and two 3rd's. Totally worth it. We actually just had our draft and I hadn't looked at what he got with the picks.
So it was Eberle, Franzen, Dubnyk, B. Schenn.
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Our league is a 10 team, 12 player keeper. Weekly H2H
Points only. Dress - 4 LW 4 C 4 RW 6 D 2 G
Weight - G= 2 A= 1 Hatty =3 W = 2 So=3 OTL=1
Keepers - Giroux, Ovechkin, Backstrom(C), Tarasenko, Malkin, Wheeler, -- Weber, Suter, Pietrangelo -- Rask, Schneider, Talbot
I hear you, but I would consider it if it helped to ease losing a player he covets who would otherwise be lost in the deal.
I think a damn good NHLer + a top flight prospect + high pick is what you need to offer. At this point in his career Giroux is at worst a ppg player who will more often than not be in the 90 - 100pt and possibly topping 100. You could offer Ebs (at least a 70pt player) + Granlund + 1(14). That should be attractive.
League:Fantrax 18 Team Dynasty, H2H (4C, 8W, 6D, 1G)
Cats:G, A, GWG, PPP, SHP, SOG, H+B, FOW, S, SV%, W, GAA
C: Backstrom,Giroux,MacKinnon,Seguin
W: D.Brown,Hartnell,Hossa,P.Kane
Kesler,Marleau,Perron,Zibanejad
D: Boyle,Del Zotto,Doughty,D.Hamilton,Hedman,Markov
G: Rinne
Bench: Braun,Comeau, Demers,DeHaan,Polak,Stempniak,Wingels --Fleury
Sent a couple different offers just waiting for a response. What's everyone's thought on me offering Duchene or Landeskog and a 1st for Tavares?
Team Cupper
Fwds- Rantanen, J.Hughes, Zibanejad, Svechnikov, Debrincat, R.Thomas, B.Tkachuk, P.Dubois, S.Bennett, R.Strome, B.Nelson, C.Keller, A.Lafreniere, JVR, J.Farabee, A.Holtz, J.Toews, K.Yamamoto, K.Kapanen,
Def - Makar, Fox, Power, Sanderson, Ty Smith, OEL
Team- NYR,NJ, Cgy
8 Teams in league
Points
Fwds -Def
Points, ppg,shg,gwg,ppa,sha
Teams- Wins,otl,so
Def get 2 points for goals
Count- 12 fwds , 3Def, 2 Teams drop lowest 9
Drop 4 each year.
League:Fantrax 18 Team Dynasty, H2H (4C, 8W, 6D, 1G)
Cats:G, A, GWG, PPP, SHP, SOG, H+B, FOW, S, SV%, W, GAA
C: Backstrom,Giroux,MacKinnon,Seguin
W: D.Brown,Hartnell,Hossa,P.Kane
Kesler,Marleau,Perron,Zibanejad
D: Boyle,Del Zotto,Doughty,D.Hamilton,Hedman,Markov
G: Rinne
Bench: Braun,Comeau, Demers,DeHaan,Polak,Stempniak,Wingels --Fleury