I don't think this too much to get Seguin. I like that deal if you can pull it off.
here is my proposal to acquire Tyler Seguin
My PK Subban, Pacioretty & Bobby Ryan
for
His Tyler Seguin, Tyler Myers & Andrew Ladd
Keeper league with offensive categories (G, A, PPG, PPA, SHG, SHA, GWG, Hat Tricks, SOG)
Is this offer too much (i'm a Habs fan by the way)
I don't think this too much to get Seguin. I like that deal if you can pull it off.
seems fair for both sides.
10 team Full Keeper Roto League
4C-4LW-4RW-6D-2G-5bench-unlimited farm.
C= eichel,horvat,malkin,kuznetsov
LW= forsberg,kreider,lee,b.tkchuch,hertle,granlund
RW= reinhart,radulov,hoffman,laine,hayes
D= doughty,ghostebehere,karlsson,jones,klefbom,dahlin ,skjei
G= price,murray,grubauer,georgiev,ullmark,samsonov
under250gp=nichushkin,tuch,mathesson,marino,pujuja rvi,hosang,terry,andersson,j.hughes,patrik,crouse, zadina,podkolzin,k.miller,nedeljkovic,kravtsov,hay ton
--G,A,P,PPP,SHP,GWG,PIMS,+/-,SOG,hits,FOW,blks-Wins,GAA,SV%,saves,SO
Fair deal on both sides. I would give it a try.
Derek Reese - Future Hall of Famer
14 Team NHL Salary Cap Dynasty
H2H, Salary Cap 108 Mil, Player actual salaries
1 Week scoring period
G,A,PTS,GWG,PIM,SOG,STP,HT,BL,+/-,W,GAA,SV,SO
Starters: 12 Forwards, 6 Defense, 2 Goalies
F - Marchand, Marner, Marchessault, Stamkos, Tuch, Comtois, Farabee, Bennett, McCann, W. Nylander, Nugent-Hopkins, Kapanen
D - Barrie, Oleksiak, Suter, Gudbranson, Savard, Lyubushkin, Ferraro
G - Saros, Rittich
Bench - Mittelstadt, Reimer, Roslovic, Keller, Reaves, Toews
Prospects - Byfield, Mercer, Veleno, Chmelevski, Tippett, Comrie, Tomasino, Valimaki, Gustavsson, Wolf
I don't like it at all. In a goal heavy league (shots, and GWG/hattricks tilt the value of goals to be significantly higher than assists), I don't see the rationale behind trading Subban for Myers (Subban is likely to score more goals), Pacio for Laad (same argument here), and Ryan for Seguin (Ryan is a perennial 30 goal guy. do you really think Seguin will be much better than that?)
It's a big no from me
5th Year 12 Team Dynasty H2H, Daily Starts
G, A, +/-, PIM, SOG, Hits, PPP, SHP
W, GAA, Sv%, Svs, SO
C: J.Spezza, A.Galchenyuk, E.Kuznetsov, M.Hanzal, V.Rask, S.Couturier
LW: Z.Parise, M.Gaborik, T.Vanek, J.Skinner
RW: C.Perry, J.Pavelski, P.Hornqvist, V.Nichushkin
D: E.Karlsson, P.K Subban, J.Muzzin, R.Ristolainen
G: R.Miller, S.Varlamov, D.Dubnyk
Prospects: Matthews, Kapanen, Vrana, Scherbak, Zadorov, Grubauer, Pickard, Aittokallio, Makarov, Reway, Guryanov, McCarron, Samsonov, Aho, Montour, Bowey
Hockey Pools? Too many to mention. Points only, salary cap and dynasty.
I'm with Bnhershy. I wouldn't do it. And there's no guy contradicting, only statements saying its a balanced/fair deal. So noone says you win.... If you're a Habs fan you should stick with your guys in this one IMO. Myers is talented, but he'll not get back to his rookie-production any time soon with Buff having Ehrhoff and Leopold as PP-spe******ts. You're treating Seguin as the next great thing here, but I doubt he'll be that valueable. And he's not too strong in the peripherals, which could really hurt your team when you give multi cat guys like Subban in the same deal...
24 team H2H dynasty, fantasy points, no cap
Skaters: G 4.5 (5 for Ds), A 3, PPG 1.5 (2 for Ds), PPA 1 (1.5 for Ds), SHP 2, Ft 2, HIT 0.6, BLK 0.6, SOG 0.3 (0.4 for Ds), FW 0.1, Tk 0.5 // Gv -0.3
Goalies: W 3.5, SHO 5, SV 0.5, A 3 // GA -3, L -1.5
4C, 4LW, 4RW, 6D, 2G, 4BN, 4IR
C: McDavid, MacKinnon, Hischier
LW: B.Tkachuk, Ovechkin, Paul(C), Jankowski(C)
LW/RW: Meier, Fiala, Giroux(C), Niederreiter
RW: Reinhart, Anderson, Armia
D: Josi, Matheson, Durzi, Moser, Cernak, Zadorov, Siegenthaler
G: Daccord, Merzlikins, Vanecek, Pickard
44 minors; most noteables: A.Schmid, E.Andrae, M.Kesselring, S.Malinski, B.Pachal, L.Stanley, L.Bichsel, E.Soderblom,...
The boys are right in that Subban and Ryan will likely score more goals than Seguin and Myers. And probably MaxPax over Ladd, too.
I'd prefer, in this scoring setup, Subban to Myers.
I'd prefer MaxPax to Ladd - but it's not way off.
I actually prefer Seguin to Ryan...but Ryan is, as the guys say above, a proven goal-scorer who could explode if he's traded/once Selanne retires.
That all being said - I really, truly believe that part of the fun of fantasy leagues is putting your nuts out and seeing what happens.
You've already said that you think Seguin is the best player in this deal. In a points-only league, I'd definitely agree. This isn't a points-only, but I'll let you do the math on how you think the six guys would produce in your settings.
What I'll add is that if you really, really want Seguin, then feel free to do the deal.
But you have to accept that you're giving up a lot and may regret it.
UHL Pittsburgh Penguins
24 Team Fantrax Salary Cap H2H Dynasty League
G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, Hits, Blks, FOW
W, GAA, SV, SV%, SO
23 Man Roster - 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 3F, 6D, 1G, 4BN, 4IR
27 Man Minor Team
C- Tavares, Stepan, Granlund, Bjugstad, Couturier
LW- Ryan, Perron, Ennis, Killorn, Spaling
RW- Wheeler, Simmonds, Coyle, Wingels, Shaw
D- JJ, Schultz, Cowen, Muzzin, Bortuzzo, Stanton
G- Lehtonen, Rämö
F: Lehterä, Wennberg, McNeill, de la Rose, Fast, Leivo, Arnold, Archibald, Lindström
D: Gelinas, Beaulieu, Koekkoek, McCabe, Johns, Gryba
G: Berra, Talbot, Brossoit, Ullmark, Lieuwen, Rynnäs
*UHL Champion 2014*
How many keepers?
I would reject deal
In ideal situation in few years
Seguin 40g 45a
Ryan 40g 30a
Pacioretty 35g 30a
Ladd 25g 25a
Subban> Myers
Last edited by cdubb; November 11, 2012 at 8:53 AM.
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