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    Quote Originally Posted by jsuites View Post
    Clarkson only hit 46 points. Close enough though.
    You're right. I was just more lenient on offense accepting 1 category (30 or 50). With the low offense these days, breaking all 4 thresholds is extremely difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Ev View Post
    Not sure how he and Foligno are any different. You honestly think he will score 30 goals one day?
    i think you are quoting wrong post. I said 20 tops & not consistantly

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparrowtrini View Post
    i think you are quoting wrong post. I said 20 tops & not consistantly
    I was referring to your Foligno comment, who you said will score 30 but not consistently. I think 30 is a huge reach for him to be honest.

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    Another vote for Henrik Samuelsson.

    He is currently scoring at a point per game pace and his pro-rated PIM's is 127.

    IF people didn't already know this is Henrik's daddy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZH-hrCOuLo

    Henrik is showing some offensive promise and has shown a tendency for some crazy penalties. It appears as though he may have a decent future as a power forward.

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    It definitely doesn't have to be a big player, but rather a guy that provides the right stats. Darcy Tucker was tiny but had a season of 28 G, 33 A, 100 PIM and 127 hits. Unfortunately the same player would probably produce 20 goals and 45 points today.

    Given how tough it is to meet the criteria and how long it takes for true power forwards to develop, I don't know if anyone can accurately identify the next guy. If you have waiver wire access it may be best to go fishing for slightly older players that are catching fire. For example, I think the likes of Welsh, Budish and Ferland (all recent acquisitions in UHL) have better odds than your typical 18 year old long-shot big man and you will wait less time for an answer.


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    Stefan Noesen should also be considered. Nice upside for all these categories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Ev View Post
    Stefan Noesen should also be considered. Nice upside for all these categories.
    I was waiting for Noesen's name to be brought up too. Definitely an interesting prospect with good upside.
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    Any love for Jeremy Morin? Not sure if he's exactly a power forward but he's always taken a high PIM totals and is very good goal scorer. So the goals and points upsides are definitely there and so seems to be the PIM upside. Has also gotten over a hit per game in the games he's played in NHL so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    It definitely doesn't have to be a big player, but rather a guy that provides the right stats. Darcy Tucker was tiny but had a season of 28 G, 33 A, 100 PIM and 127 hits. Unfortunately the same player would probably produce 20 goals and 45 points today.

    Given how tough it is to meet the criteria and how long it takes for true power forwards to develop, I don't know if anyone can accurately identify the next guy. If you have waiver wire access it may be best to go fishing for slightly older players that are catching fire. For example, I think the likes of Welsh, Budish and Ferland (all recent acquisitions in UHL) have better odds than your typical 18 year old long-shot big man and you will wait less time for an answer.
    Tucker was getting serious PP1 time those seasons (due to lack of depth).

    Powerplay minutes tend to be what seperate the 25g/50pt power forwards (Hartnell, Perry, Lucic, Backes, Simmonds, Clowe...) from the energy guys.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by jer_33 View Post
    Tucker was getting serious PP1 time those seasons (due to lack of depth).

    Powerplay minutes tend to be what seperate the 25g/50pt power forwards (Hartnell, Perry, Lucic, Backes, Simmonds, Clowe...) from the energy guys.
    Definitely, and PPP is one of the most common roto stats so in that case the power forwards become even more valuable.


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    Saw this quote from Angus tonight and thought of this conversation.

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    I don't think anyone should sell him short. By all accounts, he's looked good this year and seems to be progressing nicely.
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    I know he's not a prospect anymore, but since that wasn't exactly what the OP was looking for... What about a guy like Cal Clutterbuck? Hes still youngish, and has been slowly trending upward, and obviously has a huge number of hits. He may not be the next Perry, but maybe the next Backes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brady19 View Post
    I know he's not a prospect anymore, but since that wasn't exactly what the OP was looking for... What about a guy like Cal Clutterbuck? Hes still youngish, and has been slowly trending upward, and obviously has a huge number of hits. He may not be the next Perry, but maybe the next Backes.
    Actually it's exactly what I'm looking for - prospects.

    I really can't see Clutterbuck having what it takes to take the next step forward offensively. He's not skilled enough to do that. He'll be pretty much what he already is - and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. He's already a stud in leagues with hits as a category.
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    Any good power forward prospects in this years draft class?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Guru View Post
    Draft eligible Stephen Harper.

    If anyone has watch Erie play this year, there is no doubt you've notice Harper as a potential power forward.

    Ranked 6th best forward from the O

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