Harper - how much is too much?

[Puck Hog]

5x5 H2H keeper league. 12 teams, 8 keepers.

I am completely out of the running this year and am going after Bryce Harper. His owner wants my Hunter Pence, Felix Hernandez, and a high pick for Harper. The pick I can get from another owner for one of my spare parts, so really it comes down to Pence and Felix for Harper. Too steep?

My current keepers:
Ryan Howard
Dan Uggla
Jose Reyes
Kevin Youkilis
Hunter Pence
Shin-Soo Choo
Felix Hernandez
Cole Hamels

If I made a 2-for-1 deal like this for Harper, I would slot either Lance Berkman or Nick Markakis into my other keeper slot if I couldn't find a better bat by shopping around.

[ruckus1717]

I'm thinking it's definetly to much. I'd say either Felix or hunter plus a pick but not both plus a pick. Felix is only 26, hunter 29 so they still have lots of fantasy life left in them. I like Harper and his nemesis trout but I don't think at this point they are close to being worth 2 great keepers and a pick for either of them.

[muller714]

i wouldn't even give hunter or felix for harper. maybe pence but not more

[Pengwin7]

5x5 H2H keeper league. 12 teams, 8 keepers.

I am completely out of the running this year and am going after Bryce Harper. His owner wants my Hunter Pence, Felix Hernandez, and a high pick for Harper.
Cole Hamels

If I made a 2-for-1 deal like this for Harper, I would slot either Lance Berkman or Nick Markakis into my other keeper slot if I couldn't find a better bat by shopping around.

Pence & Felix are still young enough to be part of any rebuild.
You've got Howard & Youk that seem to be crumbling.
And you're talking about making Berkman or Markakis as a keeper...

Any team acquiring Harper is effectively rebuilding.
The asking price is fair (because the other team should be getting a replacement for Hence statistically + future worth compensation for Harper).
But this doesn't mean it is necessarily a good trade for you.
It just leaves you with too many holes and an overall direction (too many old guys) that doesn't match the rebuild of adding Harper.

In summary, Pence & Felix (IMO) are too much because your supplementary keeper group is too weak/too old.
If you could be sure you can flip Youk & Howard for younger guys, then the trade might make more sense to me.

But there just doesn't seem sensible to build with an improving Harper, when you know you have a declining Youk & a declining Howard among your keepers.

What's the chance you can get a guy like Matt Moore for a package of Uggla/Youk/Howard?

[dmvincent]

5x5 H2H keeper league. 12 teams, 8 keepers.

I am completely out of the running this year and am going after Bryce Harper. His owner wants my Hunter Pence, Felix Hernandez, and a high pick for Harper. The pick I can get from another owner for one of my spare parts, so really it comes down to Pence and Felix for Harper. Too steep?

My current keepers:
Ryan Howard
Dan Uggla
Jose Reyes
Kevin Youkilis
Hunter Pence
Shin-Soo Choo
Felix Hernandez
Cole Hamels

If I made a 2-for-1 deal like this for Harper, I would slot either Lance Berkman or Nick Markakis into my other keeper slot if I couldn't find a better bat by shopping around.

I would definitely decline the trade, but Pence and a pick is fine with me.

[notoriousjim]

i would counter with pence and youklis... i would also pull the trigger on any trade that is nabbing you extra picks if you are in a rebuild. get the best keepers you can, and stack as many picks as you can.

[shallowfrozenwater]

I would definitely decline the trade, but Pence and a pick is fine with me.

i agree with Mac

[Puck Hog]

Pence & Felix are still young enough to be part of any rebuild.
You've got Howard & Youk that seem to be crumbling.
... [edit]
If you could be sure you can flip Youk & Howard for younger guys, then the trade might make more sense to me.

What's the chance you can get a guy like Matt Moore for a package of Uggla/Youk/Howard?

It's a weird league in that SPs are rarely kept - Matt Moore will most likely be available at the draft for example.

I've been offered Brian McCann (and old-man Michael Young) for Youkilis, Bumgarner, and Saltalamacchia. Is this headed in the right direction?

And I agree with everyone - the Harper offer was way too much!

[dongjohnson]

I would definitely decline the trade, but Pence and a pick is fine with me.

I also agree. People are going bonkers for Harper. Sure, he's got an elite skill set but to send off a top pitcher, good hitter and pick for him is too much...

[ruckus1717]

I wouldn't want to send away bumgardner for mcann. Like you said young is aging, youk is an injury hazard but I think salty is catcher enough that you don't need to give away a young stud pitcher like madison for him. There are lots of great young catchers not far away from being contributers so I don't like that deal for you IMO.

[djkiang]

This really comes down to how crap your team is this year. If you're in dead last, perhaps completely blasting your team is a good idea and using Harper as your core isn't such a bad idea. Otherwise perhaps you can get a young player back in the deal if you were to send Felix and Pence.

Depends on your situation.