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    Yea Laich is my #1 target. I should clarify, he's not a FA.
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    G, A, PPP, SHP, +-, GW : W, SV%, SO


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    LW: Keller*
    RW: Nylander*
    F: MacKinnon*

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    I realize this is an old post, and for the most part the information within is good.

    1. Don't chase SHP
    2. SHP is better suited to H2H rather than roto

    I won a pool a few years ago thanks to Marian Hossa (Thrashers), who played all situations (mainly due to depth issues) and was a stud in all H2H categories. You need to identify these types of situations.

    If you missed out in the draft, then it's time to swap one of your star players with one that gets PK minutes.

    If it's a daily start league, and you've got a big bench - you could consider a PK spe******t as long as he doesn't have schedule conflicts with your keepers. Central and Pacific divisions usually have an offset schedule (playing more Tues/Thurs/Sun games).

    Cheers,

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    RW - Seguin, Toffoli, Jaskin, Donskoi (Jarvis)
    D - Sergachev, Edler, Petterson, Forbort, Ceci, Valimaki (H.Fleury, Alexeyev, Salo)
    G - Price, Brossoit (Stolarz)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jer_33 View Post
    I realize this is an old post, and for the most part the information within is good.

    1. Don't chase SHP
    2. SHP is better suited to H2H rather than roto

    I won a pool a few years ago thanks to Marian Hossa (Thrashers), who played all situations (mainly due to depth issues) and was a stud in all H2H categories. You need to identify these types of situations.

    If you missed out in the draft, then it's time to swap one of your star players with one that gets PK minutes.

    If it's a daily start league, and you've got a big bench - you could consider a PK spe******t as long as he doesn't have schedule conflicts with your keepers. Central and Pacific divisions usually have an offset schedule (playing more Tues/Thurs/Sun games).

    Cheers,

    Jer
    He was probably a super roto beast that year =)

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    Champion: 2010, 2014, 2015, 2016
    12 Team Keeper League - 12F, 6D, 3G, 3 Bench (Keep 6, in Bold)
    $250 Cap (0-9 +3; 10-19 +4; >20 +5 each season)
    WW = $10

    G, A, +/-, PPG, PPA, GWG, SHG, W, GAA, SV%, SO - Points Based League

    F: Guentzel (15), Point (11), Barzal (18), WNylander (15), Trochek (1), Eberle (1), Domi (4), Toffoli (1), TBertuzzi (1), Buchnevich (1), Tuch (1), Puljujarvi (1)

    D: Theodore (17), Heiskanen (15), Pulock (7), Sanheim (1), Faulk (1), Morrissey (1)

    G: Markstrom (7), Saros (15), Binnington (39), Jarry (40)

    B: DeSmith (1), Lindblom (1)

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    SHP is always going to be something that really shouldn't be chased and just isn't suited to any league format. It's just not a stat that is easy to track.

    Looking back to the lockout, only two player's ever broke 10 short handed points: Martin St Louis and Eric Perrin and both did it years ago. Heck, only a handful more broke 8 points in a single season.

    It's just not a common stat and really doesn't fit well in most league setups. Unless it's a head to head points league or points league that counts special team points differently, it's a very hard to use stat. even in leagues where it works, it's largely an irrelevant stat.
    14T BiWeekly H2H. 4 C/RW/LW, 6 D, 2 G
    Cats:G(3), A(1.5), PIM(0.2), PPP(1), SOG(0.2), GWG(1), SHP(2), Hits(0.3), BkS(0.4). W(2), SO(2), OTL(0.5), SV(0.2), GA(-1), L(-1). 9 Keepers in Bold. 12 player Farm team (skaters under 110, goalies under 80 gp) in italics

    LW - Gaudreau, Forsberg, Parise, Hyman (C)
    C - Backstrom, Getzlaf, N Foligno (LW/RW), Kotkaniemi, Carter (LW/RW)
    RW - Tarasenko, Rantanen, Arvidsson, Atkinson, Gourde (C/LW), Mikheyev (RW)
    D - Dahlin, Theodore, Ellis, Klingberg, Fox, Andersson
    G - Murray, Grubauer

    Prospects -Rossi, Turcotte, Kravstov, Tippett, Bouchard, Lehtonen, K Miller, Addison, DeSmith, Kahkonen, Ingram, Gustavsson

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    SHP would appear to be "luck", but in fact can be obtained with some probability - the key is of course to watch PK TOI/g and identify which fantasy relevant players are getting the opportunities.

    In a roto league I hate it, in a Yahoo H2H league it adds an interesting elementto the standard cats.

    Cash leagues? Forget it.
     

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    C - Aho, Rakell, Foligno, Trenin (Janmark, Steel, Kurashev)
    LW - Hall, Lucic, Sanford, Bellows (Vesalainen, Foote, Katchouk)
    RW - Seguin, Toffoli, Jaskin, Donskoi (Jarvis)
    D - Sergachev, Edler, Petterson, Forbort, Ceci, Valimaki (H.Fleury, Alexeyev, Salo)
    G - Price, Brossoit (Stolarz)

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