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    Quote Originally Posted by reggiebarnes View Post
    Eugene Melnyk has nothing to do with this latest story...not everything is his fault. The team isn?t to blame for a player or players wife harassing somebody else.
    well, except that he owns the team and it's been published the team was aware of the harassment allegations ALL SEASON. The fact that everyone in the front office is still there as is Hoffman and Karlsson means someone has failed above the player level. If you own the company - take responsibility for the product you produce.

    With this story out and Hoffman still on the team - I'm now 90% convinced Karlsson is going to demand a trade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    well, except that he owns the team and it's been published the team was aware of the harassment allegations ALL SEASON. The fact that everyone in the front office is still there as is Hoffman and Karlsson means someone has failed above the player level. If you own the company - take responsibility for the product you produce.

    With this story out and Hoffman still on the team - I'm now 90% convinced Karlsson is going to demand a trade.
    That?s not correct . The team did not know about it all season. They have been trying to trade him for the last five month or so. There is nothing that falls in their feet in this situation. This is a matter where all the blame is all on the Hoffman?s (if true). Karlsson will not demand a trade, and they will not be moving from Ottawa as confirmed by him at the season end

    Hoffman will be traded, karlsson will still be here, and that?s that

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    I'm having a hard time understanding why Karlsson would want to remain with the Senators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rtstr View Post
    I'm having a hard time understanding why Karlsson would want to remain with the Senators.
    Your opinion on if it will or will not remain with the Senators should not change given this story. As long as the one player in question is traded, there no reason this is a negative on re signing

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    Karlsson could very well just want out of the city for a mental fresh start. Same with Melinda.

    Karlsson won't wanna be on a team with Hoffman.
    Hoffman's trade value could be 0.
    Team could think it's better to trade Karlsson now as the return would be higher than the return come mid season, then wait for this to kinda blow over and trade Hoffman for a slightly higher value than what it would be now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reggiebarnes View Post
    That?s not correct . The team did not know about it all season. They have been trying to trade him for the last five month or so. There is nothing that falls in their feet in this situation. This is a matter where all the blame is all on the Hoffman?s (if true). Karlsson will not demand a trade, and they will not be moving from Ottawa as confirmed by him at the season end

    Hoffman will be traded, karlsson will still be here, and that?s that
    If all the players wives were aware of it for months, I find it hard to believe management was not aware, at least on a peripheral level. If they weren't, then they should have been. One would think all teams would be following all player and partners twitter accounts looking for privacy breaches/leaks at the very least. The fact this was going on since late 2017 & there was a confrontation between EK & Hoffman in the parking lot during the season just leads me to believe the Sens WERE aware of it, but did not address it or take it seriously. They're really making a case for themselves to be labeled the worst run franchise in the NHL.

    I'm not trying to troll, but man, this team has turned into a cluster---- very quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    If all the players wives were aware of it for months, I find it hard to believe management was not aware, at least on a peripheral level. If they weren't, then they should have been. One would think all teams would be following all player and partners twitter accounts looking for privacy breaches/leaks at the very least. The fact this was going on since late 2017 & there was a confrontation between EK & Hoffman in the parking lot during the season just leads me to believe the Sens WERE aware of it, but did not address it or take it seriously. They're really making a case for themselves to be labeled the worst run franchise in the NHL.

    I'm not trying to troll, but man, this team has turned into a cluster---- very quickly.
    Is there a link or article about this confrontation?? I wanna read it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PenguinHunter View Post
    Is there a link or article about this confrontation?? I wanna read it!
    http://ottawasun.com/sports/hockey/n...-hoffman-story

    There's no details about the confrontation - The Ott citizen article originally had this paragraph as well, but in all the updates as info emerges and they continue to update the same story, that paragraph has been removed
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    When did the parking lot confrontation happen and if it was as known as it seems to be based on the wording why was it first reported today?

    As I stated in the other thread I'm just trying to separate fact from speculation here.


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    The team knew about it. Apparently they've been going back and forth with Hoffman's agency since the start of the year trying to get to the bottom of it.

    I don't understand why it takes so long. The 76'ers figured out it was Colangelo's wife in just over a week. I'm shocked the Sens didn't just hire an investigator to get to the bottom of this... now the damage is done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blayze View Post
    The team knew about it. Apparently they've been going back and forth with Hoffman's agency since the start of the year trying to get to the bottom of it.

    I don't understand why it takes so long. The 76'ers figured out it was Colangelo's wife in just over a week. I'm shocked the Sens didn't just hire an investigator to get to the bottom of this... now the damage is done.
    That is correct. The team did indeed know about this for quite a long time as there was a public incident that happened during their Swedish trip to kick-off the year. The jealousy has been there for years, but the cyber-bullying and harassment was known since the start of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    When did the parking lot confrontation happen and if it was as known as it seems to be based on the wording why was it first reported today?

    As I stated in the other thread I'm just trying to separate fact from speculation here.
    it was in the article from yesterday in the Citizen, but every time I access that article (the orginal posted article) - it's been altered/edited/added to - so that paragraph has been removed for whatever reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blayze View Post
    I'm shocked the Sens didn't just hire an investigator to get to the bottom of this... now the damage is done.

    I agree, an investigator would have been the way to go, for sure.
    This guy would have found out the truth within a few hours.
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    Millard said something interesting on hockeycentral today; he was talking about some conversations he'd had with current players about this over the last day or so, and the general sentiment was "we don't want him in our room," with someone even saying Hoffman needed to dump her to gain team mates trust back.

    Not that it means anything regarding truth vs speculation, but those sound like some pretty strong sentiments. Definitely doesn't seem like something that's going to go away quickly or quietly for Ottawa, and definitely not for Hoffman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notch4077 View Post
    That is correct. The team did indeed know about this for quite a long time as there was a public incident that happened during their Swedish trip to kick-off the year. The jealousy has been there for years, but the cyber-bullying and harassment was known since the start of the season.
    You gotta figure this was one of the drivers in them trying to deal him over the last six months.

    IF this is true, Hoffman's gotta be the biggest idiot in the world for destroying his hockey career to protect someone that crazy.
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