New York Rangers

[dejeanneret]

Yeah, $11MM/season (much less more than that) for a goalie is insane. I'm no cap wizard, but I really don't know how you win with that over even the medium term.

[pmorrow]

Woah. Haven't done the numbers but I am guessing that cap hit % is a shade more of than what Price got in 2017? Wow, we are in uncharted territory here now

[Belexus75]

allegedly he rejected an 8 yr./$88 million offer. Please Drury, for the sake of the future, deal him at the deadline for a haul and sign a goalie in free agency next year.

NY is one of top contenders unlesss they trade Igor … you play this out, let him walk and gain big cap space

[loppantorkel]

NY is one of top contenders unlesss they trade Igor … you play this out, let him walk and gain big cap space

Is Panarin more valuable than Shesterkin in the playoffs?

edit: ..Florida just won with $10M Bob. Shesterkin is better and the cap is going up. Doesn't seem unreasonable for the top UFA goalie. Even if he only plays 60 games, and backing-up the rest, he plays close to 60 min/game, in contrast to every other position. Likely 50% more minutes than the closest skater over a season.

[Axeman33]

Woah. Haven't done the numbers but I am guessing that cap hit % is a shade more of than what Price got in 2017? Wow, we are in uncharted territory here now

Price's $10.5M cap hit accounted for 13.2% of the cap when it was signed.

Assuming the cap jumps to $92M next offseason, that same 13.2% of the cap hit would land right around $12.5M and I think that's what he's expecting, or more. Crazy!! If I am the Rangers, I am looking for other options. He's a great goalie, but to take up that much cap for a guy who may play ~60ish games in a season is just crazy.

[pmorrow]

Price's $10.5M cap hit accounted for 13.2% of the cap when it was signed.

Assuming the cap jumps to $92M next offseason, that same 13.2% of the cap hit would land right around $12.5M and I think that's what he's expecting, or more. Crazy!! If I am the Rangers, I am looking for other options. He's a great goalie, but to take up that much cap for a guy who may play ~60ish games in a season is just crazy.

Oh that's higher than I thought (Prices %). That's the number he will be gunning to beat then.

[LuigiC173]

the free agent goalie class in '25 is pretty sizable albeit none in his tier. Dylan Garand is ready to be a backup at the very least to compliment one of these options but paying a goalie this much would be insanity when they also have to sign Lafreniere/Miller as well next summer. A haul at the deadline for Igor would be substantial and you could probably net a serviceable goalie in the return package. Panarin deal runs through '26, they need to be think more about the coming retool on the fly once he's off the books over putting themselves in cap purgatory a la Toronto for the long term.

[rataylor22]

Yeah, $11MM/season (much less more than that) for a goalie is insane. I'm no cap wizard, but I really don't know how you win with that over even the medium term.

As mentioned, Florida just consecutively made and then won the cup with a goalie making $10M on an 82.5 (12.1%) and 83.5 (12.0%). If Shesterkin signs for $12.5M, he would be projected to be around that number by year 3 of his deal, assuming 5% YoY cap growth. Shesterkin obviously is a much better goalie right now than Sergei Bobrovsky.

Price's $10.5M cap hit accounted for 13.2% of the cap when it was signed.

Assuming the cap jumps to $92M next offseason, that same 13.2% of the cap hit would land right around $12.5M and I think that's what he's expecting, or more. Crazy!! If I am the Rangers, I am looking for other options. He's a great goalie, but to take up that much cap for a guy who may play ~60ish games in a season is just crazy.

Plays 100% of the games in the playoffs though, which correct me if I'm wrong are the games that matter. Could need a reference check on that one.

pivotal time in NY as far as a potential Igor contract; if he wants $12 mil or more a year, Drury should hold. As Trouba said, this is the last realistic crack at it for this core. If they were approaching deadline out of playoff race should they really falter, it would serve their best interests to deal him for a king's ransom. There will be hordes of UFA goalie options in '25 albeit not in his class but vastly cheaper. Garand is about ready to be promoted at least as a backup to the likes of a Comrie, Samsonov, etc. 98% of NYR fans would call this blasphemy but they're heading for another rebuild on the fly once Panarin's deal expires after '25-'26.

the free agent goalie class in '25 is pretty sizable albeit none in his tier. Dylan Garand is ready to be a backup at the very least to compliment one of these options but paying a goalie this much would be insanity when they also have to sign Lafreniere/Miller as well next summer. A haul at the deadline for Igor would be substantial and you could probably net a serviceable goalie in the return package. Panarin deal runs through '26, they need to be think more about the coming retool on the fly once he's off the books over putting themselves in cap purgatory a la Toronto for the long term.

Dylan Garand has played 73 AHL games and hasn't been able to crack below 3.00 GAA nor above a 0.900 Sv%. He is not anywhere close to ready for a backup role in the NHL.

The top 15 FA goalies, sorted by 2023-24 Sv%, are: Frederik Anderson, David Rittich, Chris Driedger, Joey Daccord, Linus Ullmark, Charlie Lindgren, Jonathan Quick, Adin Hill, Kevin Lankinen, Logan Thompson, James Reimer, Alex Lyon, Kaapo Kahkonen, Mackenzie Blackwood, Alexander Georgiev. The Rangers are arguably a lottery team if they replace Shesterkin and *sparsely used backuP* with one of these guys and Dylan Garand.

Just completely psycho thinking.

Shesterkin likely wants more than Panarin, and he absolutely deserves it.

[dejeanneret]

As mentioned, Florida just consecutively made and then won the cup with a goalie making $10M on an 82.5 (12.1%) and 83.5 (12.0%). If Shesterkin signs for $12.5M, he would be projected to be around that number by year 3 of his deal, assuming 5% YoY cap growth. Shesterkin obviously is a much better goalie right now than Sergei Bobrovsky.



Plays 100% of the games in the playoffs though, which correct me if I'm wrong are the games that matter. Could need a reference check on that one.





Dylan Garand has played 73 AHL games and hasn't been able to crack below 3.00 GAA nor above a 0.900 Sv%. He is not anywhere close to ready for a backup role in the NHL.

The top 15 FA goalies, sorted by 2023-24 Sv%, are: Frederik Anderson, David Rittich, Chris Driedger, Joey Daccord, Linus Ullmark, Charlie Lindgren, Jonathan Quick, Adin Hill, Kevin Lankinen, Logan Thompson, James Reimer, Alex Lyon, Kaapo Kahkonen, Mackenzie Blackwood, Alexander Georgiev. The Rangers are arguably a lottery team if they replace Shesterkin and *sparsely used backuP* with one of these guys and Dylan Garand.

Just completely psycho thinking.

Shesterkin likely wants more than Panarin, and he absolutely deserves it.

Even if Bob at $10MM shows that it can be done (albeit with a $2MM savings compared to Shesterkin's ask) if everything works out picture perfect, there is no way that spending $11-12MM++ annually over 8 years is the model that gives the best odds of winning the Cup in this era.

[LuigiC173]

I respectfully agree to disagree. Igor may be the best goalie in the game currently but I would prefer another team pay that price as me personally, I am more concerned with savings now that the price will be above $11/yr. I sure as sh*t don't run the team but after Panarin deal expires, their window is shut. Why sign a goalie long term who will no longer fit the timeline of a retooling team.

Regarding Dylan, his reg. season stats suck but his performances in the past two playoffs are promising, but hey that's just me.

This is it, this is the last kick at the can as Trouba said. Ride out this last year of Igor's deal and should it be that at the deadline they aren't looking like a strong contender, deal him for an insane return. I'll happily ride with a timeshare in net while Drury takes all the money saved to the bank in prep for free agency/RFA signing.

Let's say they get him for $11.25/yr conservatively. That would equate to $55.4 million tied up in six players. That's w/o signing Lafreniere and Miller, both RFA's this summer. No f*cking way.

[rataylor22]

Even if Bob at $10MM shows that it can be done (albeit with a $2MM savings compared to Shesterkin's ask) if everything works out picture perfect, there is no way that spending $11-12MM++ annually over 8 years is the model that gives the best odds of winning the Cup in this era.

I mean the best model is getting 2 Connor McDavid’s, but even then it’s not guaranteed. And not every team has access to that model. Of the options currently facing the Rangers, paying Shesterkin is absolutely the best model they have to remain/become a contender.

[LuigiC173]

if things don't improve drastically by the deadline I can only hope Drury but more importantly Dolan accept this team cannot attain the pinnacle, do themselves a tremendous favor, and deal Igor for a king's ransom. A team like Utah or Colorado can give you a goalie back, a very good roster player, and hopefully two first-round picks. Run Quick in a timeshare and set yourselves up for the inevitable rebuild on fly come the summer of '26 when Panarin deal expires. Sign Igor and you shackle the team financially a la Toronto for the likes of the next 7 years.

[2014olympicgold]

EF said they are exploring a roster shake up and made it clear to the league that certain players are available. Among those are Trouba and Kreider.

[pmorrow]

Chris Kreider healthy scratch

[tweetdrivr]

Interesting. Where do we think he’s headed?