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    all the suggestions above are good, as well as ppg, last 3 gms in fantasy tools is useful as to see what a team is using in the line-up on a weekly basis(pick-up). as for playoffs, i took a shot on bolland with my last pick last year, basically using the ppg, he rocked, but it helps that a team goes far, no doubt, also rocked with niemi, which was a pick em over broduer, i lucked out....won league, 2nd in playoffs.....not a lame yahoo league like most here

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    Does anyone know if an iphone app exists to do the following:

    - Track a list of selected players giving the most stats possible BUT! for prospects as well. I have a very deep keeper league pool and would love to keep track of prospects in the CHL, SEL, NCAA and AHL as well as my NHL players.

    I know a couple of apps are good to follow players and their stats in the nhl, but i want more!

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    Some really great advice here. How did I miss this thread? Thanks for some of the ideas lads. Really good stuff.

    If I can add something. I use spreadsheets a lot when analyzing a lot of stats. I'll create huge tables of stats, create data filters, then add my categories to the tables, and add up what their points would have been. For example, I'll have a shots column and right next to it, I'll have a shots fpts column (C1=B1*0.333). By doing this for all my stats in the league, I can filter specific categories I want to target and arrange the data for any column I want. This is especially handy in a H2H league.

    I will create other columns like Rookie (y or n) so I can filter rookies. I'll create 4yr as a yes/no column. You can filter on any of these columns and just look at rookies or players coming into his 4th year.

    I will also create a pts/gm, PIMS/gm, shots/gm and a pts/prorated for 82 games, a fpts/game prorated to 82 games and a total fpts column (add up all the other fpts columns you made). I use these kinds of columns to highlight players that were making noise in one or more area, but get lost b/c of games missed.

    Lastly, after I've analyzed the data over and over again, I will create the final column of players that I want to draft. I'll rate them in tiers. 1, 2, 3, 4 for each position. When a tier is getting low for a particular position, I'll draft it.

    Anyways, that's how I do my research. I read a lot of hockey articles on the internets and then use the spreadsheets to back up or disprove the ideas I've read.

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    I often use spreadsheets from different producers (Dobber, THN, Score etc)

    I'll average the points and then resort to come up with a new ranking.

    It's been pretty successful in the past and usually evens out any long shots
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    Lots of great stuff here!
    Great thread
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    Personally pre draft spend a few hours looking at rankings from as many "experts" as you can find. there is a good one for points here, yahoo does their rankings, and there are tons more from bloggers who have been doing this for years. Personally i trust dobber the most, but that does not mean i take his word as gospel.

    Post draft, whenever you make a trade, before you offer or accept a trade read up on everyone involved. It only takes 20 minutes to check the boards here and google them to see if there is something you are missing.

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    @ Atomic Wedgy
    Spreadsheets are something that intrigue me as I can see how they could really give you an edge against GM's that solely rely on the Yahoo! data. I can grasp how to set up the relevant stats and categories, my only question relates to updating the data. Do you manually update each players stats as you see fit, or is there a way to have an excel spreadsheet automatically update each players stars after every game?
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    You can pay for external data sources, but that is for those who are hosting a pool service or something like that. Its too expensive just to have your spreadsheet updated. Whenever I have a tough decision, I usually bang out a fresh one. it doesn't take that long to put together.

    The spreadsheet is pure gold at draft time. That is really when the work of creating it pays off.

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    My success has been sorta on the same timeline as an NHL player...
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    A lot of it comes down to experience.

    In just your 2nd year the best outcome for you is probably just to absorb as much information as you possibly can.

    Get familiar with player's names and team superstars and continue to learn the ropes of fantasy hockey. What are the fantasy indicators of success to look for, and keep following sites and forums to get the latest up to date info.

    I've written a few articles the past few weeks that highlight the potential top-six of each team. Generally most are pretty set, with a few other key names to keep an eye on. Take a gander at those if you haven't done so yet.
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    Read every post ever written on this site by Ryan Ma and understand how he analyzes the numbers game in Fantasy hockey. Sure you may have a hunch, it might be great, but consider that the tipping point in a balanced fight. To make sure you stay in contention, the only true consistent approach to is to follow the numbers.
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    what im curious about is -- what's the best source to find out who's securing what spots coming out of camps/pre-season? Is there a rank of all most-recent / most-likely PPQBs and top 6ers? Bought Dobbers guide, which is great, but those lineups are not super-current
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    Camp / preseason is meaningless... Can't go by that to find out top 6 roles.. Look at Boone Jenner for example, tore it up in preseason and even started the year on the first line. Need to monitor who guys play with and ice time 5 on 5 / PP / PK. that's really what it comes down to. unless your rebuilding and want to ride the prospect wave, Otherwise you'll win with guys that get the most ice time cause you can't collect points on the bench. Lastly, injury prone guys will haunt you, stay away. Safe to have 1 but anymore is devastation waiting to happen.



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    I read through alot of this thread and pardon me if it was already mentioned, but something I use fairly often to gauge a player's potential (or abilities at least) is YOUTUBE. You can always find some college or junior games on there, whether it be North American or European leagues. I see that many of the answers here focus on the statistical aspect of things, which is great, but I love seeing what a player can do on the ice as well to better assess the prospect's game going forward.

    A good example I can share is when I researched Tyler Johnson 2 years ago. He was flying under the radar and there was only a bit of buzz about him on Dobber, but nothing more. Watching him play for his junior team, I instantly saw that the kid had talent. Had I just based myself on his stats, I would have most likely been turned off by his diminutive stature, thinking that even though the kid had good numbers, he would not be able to make it in the NHL cause of his size. Well the YOUTUBE clips clearly showed that Tyler Johnson had heart and drive and did not shy away from bigger players.

    Morale of the story here, is to diversify your research and sources. A good Fantasy GM will be one that can grasp what he can from the available sources and make the proper assessment and predictions based on that. Therefore, more info = better projections; just make sure you get your information from trustworthy sources (experienced writers/scouts/bloggers... with little to no biases)


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