Reply With QuoteVoracek for me - want that winger eligibility for one. I think we are otherwise looking at similar upsides here. I believe that Voracek is more likely to achieve his upside.
Oscar Moller vs. Jakub Voracek
Who'd you rather have on your farm and why?
League scoring in my sig...
League #1:
G, A, P, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, SOG, W, SV%, SHO
League #2:
G, A, P, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, SOG, W, SV, SV%, GAA, SHO
Voracek for me - want that winger eligibility for one. I think we are otherwise looking at similar upsides here. I believe that Voracek is more likely to achieve his upside.
Voracek for sure. I see him as a better talent. As much as I question whether the points will be there in Columbus I just plain like him better. Moller I feel will be burried in the depth in Los Angeles and even if he breaks through I just don't think he's as good.
Also positionally Voracek is a RW, toughest position in the game right there.
Voracek for me also for the reasons MD spelled out.
Oh geez, Vorachek by 10-15 points in their prime's..
Zorro says "vote for Dobber"
Angus is my best friend at dobberhockey..
Voracek 100%.
8-GM / WK-H2H
Forwards: G=2, A=1, PP/SH= +1, GWG= +2, Shootout G=1, HT= +1
D-Men/Captain: G=3/A=2
Goalies: W=3, OTL=1, SO= +2, SV= .10
Start = 13F, 6D, 2G / Keep 44 (3G)
Captain: Matthews
(F): MacKinnon, Pasta, Marner, Rantanen, Malkin, Barkov, M.Tkachuk, W.Nylander, Pettersson, Gaudreau, Laine, Keller, Miller, B.Tkachuk, Stutzle, DeBrincat, L.Raymond, K.Johnson, Cozens, Quinn, Guenther, Kulich, Cooley
(D): Makar, Dahlin, Q.Hughes, Ekblad, Rielly, Werenski, Letang, Jones, Chychrun, Seider, Edvinsson, Jiricek, Korchinski, Mintyukov, Ceulemans, Hutson
(G): Shesterkin, Demko, Vejmelka
Like everyone said Voracek. Higher upside, Better chance of reaching it, should be in a top 6 role this year and hit 50.
Wow... thought that it'd be a little closer than that!
I'd vote Voracek too, but Moller had a few pts that made me go "hmmm"...
- LA is liklier in my mind to promote offense than Hitch's CBJs
- Moller played C last year a lot, but played RW in the WHL I believe. A few other sources have him listed as LW. So, multi-position eligibility may happen.
- Moller surprised a lot of ppl by making the team last year and was doing really well until he injured himself at the juniors. But he really seems like he's got more drive. Voracek for some reason makes me think of Zherdev...
- Moller's feistier and may rack up more PIM?
Am I way off?
League #1:
G, A, P, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, SOG, W, SV%, SHO
League #2:
G, A, P, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, SOG, W, SV, SV%, GAA, SHO
For reference, Dobber's got Moller's upside as 85 and Voracek's as 88...Originally Posted by Zorro
League #1:
G, A, P, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, SOG, W, SV%, SHO
League #2:
G, A, P, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, SOG, W, SV, SV%, GAA, SHO
Yes, you are way off right here.
Voracek has the work ethic of a thoroughbred, Zherdev is flashy but lazy.
Voracek is a coach’s dream; Zherdev is a coach’s nightmare.
Both are dripping with talent but Voracek is well-rounded.
8-GM / WK-H2H
Forwards: G=2, A=1, PP/SH= +1, GWG= +2, Shootout G=1, HT= +1
D-Men/Captain: G=3/A=2
Goalies: W=3, OTL=1, SO= +2, SV= .10
Start = 13F, 6D, 2G / Keep 44 (3G)
Captain: Matthews
(F): MacKinnon, Pasta, Marner, Rantanen, Malkin, Barkov, M.Tkachuk, W.Nylander, Pettersson, Gaudreau, Laine, Keller, Miller, B.Tkachuk, Stutzle, DeBrincat, L.Raymond, K.Johnson, Cozens, Quinn, Guenther, Kulich, Cooley
(D): Makar, Dahlin, Q.Hughes, Ekblad, Rielly, Werenski, Letang, Jones, Chychrun, Seider, Edvinsson, Jiricek, Korchinski, Mintyukov, Ceulemans, Hutson
(G): Shesterkin, Demko, Vejmelka
Really? where are you getting this from, I see 80 for Moller? and he doesn't have as good as shot as reaching it as Voracek.
Either way I still like Voracek by a mile.
Dobber's '08/'09 midseason guide in the rankings at the bottom.
League #1:
G, A, P, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, SOG, W, SV%, SHO
League #2:
G, A, P, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, SOG, W, SV, SV%, GAA, SHO
Cool, great to hear! I'll pull the trigger on this trade now I think...
League #1:
G, A, P, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, SOG, W, SV%, SHO
League #2:
G, A, P, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, SOG, W, SV, SV%, GAA, SHO
What trade?
Moller for Voracek, or Zherdev for Voracek?
I would do either trade.
Next season, Zherdev out-points Voracek, but shortly after, the Snake surpasses him and doesn’t look back.
8-GM / WK-H2H
Forwards: G=2, A=1, PP/SH= +1, GWG= +2, Shootout G=1, HT= +1
D-Men/Captain: G=3/A=2
Goalies: W=3, OTL=1, SO= +2, SV= .10
Start = 13F, 6D, 2G / Keep 44 (3G)
Captain: Matthews
(F): MacKinnon, Pasta, Marner, Rantanen, Malkin, Barkov, M.Tkachuk, W.Nylander, Pettersson, Gaudreau, Laine, Keller, Miller, B.Tkachuk, Stutzle, DeBrincat, L.Raymond, K.Johnson, Cozens, Quinn, Guenther, Kulich, Cooley
(D): Makar, Dahlin, Q.Hughes, Ekblad, Rielly, Werenski, Letang, Jones, Chychrun, Seider, Edvinsson, Jiricek, Korchinski, Mintyukov, Ceulemans, Hutson
(G): Shesterkin, Demko, Vejmelka
The trade is my Moller + Russell (who I don't have space for in my top 10), for Voracek and James Sheppard (who I don't think fits in my top 10).
League #1:
G, A, P, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, SOG, W, SV%, SHO
League #2:
G, A, P, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, SOG, W, SV, SV%, GAA, SHO
