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    Default Re: Rantanen to CAR, Necas to COL

    It's not about Hall at all, you guys are missing the point...

    They're eating half of Rantenen's salary ($4.7M) and without their cap space "renting" this entire mega deal can't happen. Hawks had all the leverage.

    And yet all they got out it was a measly 3rd round pick, which is essentially a flyer/lottery pick at best... I would have expected at least a 2nd rounder.

    Just a really poor job negotiating by the GM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blayze View Post
    It's not about Hall at all, you guys are missing the point...

    They're eating half of Rantenen's salary ($4.7M) and without their cap space "renting" this entire mega deal can't happen. Hawks had all the leverage.

    And yet all they got out it was a measly 3rd round pick, which is essentially a flyer/lottery pick at best... I would have expected at least a 2nd rounder.

    Just a really poor job negotiating by the GM.
    Disagree. if they said "thats not enough to eat that salary" ,then you are correct no deal would have happened for anyone but that also means they, Chicago, gets nothing. Im sure they asked for a 2nd rd pick but COL said nope, we will offer the 3rd take it or leave it.. they took it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GinFizz View Post
    Disagree. if they said "thats not enough to eat that salary" ,then you are correct no deal would have happened for anyone but that also means they, Chicago, gets nothing. Im sure they asked for a 2nd rd pick but COL said nope, we will offer the 3rd take it or leave it.. they took it.
    Thanks. We’re so lucky to have an insider on this forum who can tell us what really went down.

    I bet the farm if Hawks GM had the balls to say 2nd rounder or no deal, Canes would have caved. They’re going all in and superstars like Rantanen rarely ever hit the trade market. They’re not walking over 2nd vs 3rd round…

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    Quote Originally Posted by blayze View Post
    Thanks. We’re so lucky to have an insider on this forum who can tell us what really went down.

    I bet the farm if Hawks GM had the balls to say 2nd rounder or no deal, Canes would have caved to land Rantanen..
    LOL had no clue i was in the presence of a genius..

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    Quote Originally Posted by blayze View Post
    It's not about Hall at all, you guys are missing the point...

    They're eating half of Rantenen's salary ($4.7M) and without their cap space "renting" this entire mega deal can't happen. Hawks had all the leverage.

    And yet all they got out it was a measly 3rd round pick, which is essentially a flyer/lottery pick at best... I would have expected at least a 2nd rounder.

    Just a really poor job negotiating by the GM.
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    Default Re: Rantanen to CAR, Necas to COL

    They kept 4.3 on Rantanen and 0 on Hall.

    Shipping out Hall at full salary wasn't possible.

    So keeping 4.3 on Rantanen or 4.3 on Hall.... it ends up with a 3rd and it makes sense.

    Rantanen is set for 1st line with Aho and Blake while Jarvis is still on the 3rd with Martinook and Staal.

    Hall is set for 4th line veteran duties. At least in Chicago he had random Bedard ice time. Forget it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daydream Nation View Post
    What do you think Hall at 3M is worth?
    id say a 5th.. but then again, what do i know..

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    And it’s Chicago’s 3rd so pretty much a 2nd…

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    Default Re: Rantanen to CAR, Necas to COL

    Just read these quotes from Hall when asked about the recent deal. Reading between the lines, boy oh boy this sounds like a broken beaten-down player.

    “Not everyone’s career goes exactly how they want,” Hall said. “I can sit here and feel sorry for myself or beat myself up or whatever it may be, but I’m excited to be here. I’ve played almost 900 games and I have a chance at a Stanley Cup this year. That’s my mindset.

    "I became a free agent during Covid, probably the worst-ever time to become a free agent. Right before that, I was traded to a team in Arizona where the future was very murky, and I got offered a contract I didn’t want to take. And then Covid free agency was what it was.

    "I didn’t want to get traded from Boston. I got traded to a rebuilding team (Chicago) that their timeline just didn’t fit, and now here we are. There’s a lot that goes into it.

    "A lot of guys don’t play their careers with the same team. I know I went No. 1 and a lot of guys stick with that team when they go No. 1. But I’m proud of my career and I think there’s a lot more ahead of me.”
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    Default Re: Rantanen to CAR, Necas to COL

    I think the perceived gap between Necas and Rantanen will be significantly smaller a year from now.

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