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    Quote Originally Posted by GinFizz View Post
    Most, not all, management would not throw their kids under the bus. If they implied that they made a mistake in the selection process that is telling the kids that they are not good enough. Obviously behind closed doors is different.
    You said it much better than I did. Maybe I should have not said all, but like you stated most of the management would not throw their kids under the bus.

    Also, does anyone feel that those Canadian Kids didn't give 110% each game? I don't think that was the case at all, I just think they got outplayed by teams that were better like Czechia and the USA. The Latvia game was one hell of a game played by Latvia and if they would probably play team Canada 5 more times in a row they most likely would not have won, but that night it was their night and they deserved it. That is not saying that the Canadian Kids didn't give 110%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Meow View Post
    You said it much better than I did. Maybe I should have not said all, but like you stated most of the management would not throw their kids under the bus.

    Also, does anyone feel that those Canadian Kids didn't give 110% each game? I don't think that was the case at all, I just think they got outplayed by teams that were better like Czechia and the USA. The Latvia game was one hell of a game played by Latvia and if they would probably play team Canada 5 more times in a row they most likely would not have won, but that night it was their night and they deserved it. That is not saying that the Canadian Kids didn't give 110%.
    Axe mentioned it upthread a bit, they were undisciplined in their play. it seemed to me, and trust me i aint no hockey scout, that they were lacking in the fundamentals department as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GinFizz View Post
    Axe mentioned it upthread a bit, they were undisciplined in their play. it seemed to me, and trust me i aint no hockey scout, that they were lacking in the fundamentals department as well.
    Is undisciplined though different than putting in full effort? A good coaching system, I believe can work and hopefully successfully change undisciplined players. I would hope they could. You also have to remember these players are kids. These are not Connor McDavid, Nathan MacKinnon, or Mitchell Marner. These are kids that are going to be undisciplined at time if the coaching aren't doing their job. I really do think these kids put it all out in every game and the coaching are the ones to blame here. The problem is though the kids from this team are the ones getting blasted a lot as well.

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    i agree they are kids and im sure they played with solid effort. IMO, its on the coaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GinFizz View Post
    i agree they are kids and im sure they played with solid effort. IMO, its on the coaches.
    Why you feel the need to assign the blame? Maybe its nobody's fault. Also if you blame coaches, what exactly did they do wrong in your opinion?

    To me its simply the fact that the world of hockey is better now than it was before. Yes Canada will still win their share in years to come but so will other countries cause they now develop as good of players as Canad does. Its going to be in Cycles now.

    Its very similar to soccer and Canada themselves. Few years back they were right at the bottom in the game that every country plays...now they are respected and can compete with middle of the pack and from time to time should be able to compete with those at the top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belexus75 View Post
    Why you feel the need to assign the blame? Maybe it’s nobody's fault. Also if you blame coaches, what exactly did they do wrong in your opinion?
    They didn’t practice once the tournament started. So. That would be one thing I would point to. Lol.

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    Aaaaanndd now PH is taking his monthly swing at harassing and obsessing over me in PMs lol. All because he stated he is unqualified to have an opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rataylor22 View Post
    Aaaaanndd now PH is taking his monthly swing at harassing and obsessing over me in PMs lol. All because he stated he is unqualified to have an opinion.
    you really need to post this here? You have problem with him take it up with him or the Mods. Keep this garbage out of here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rataylor22 View Post
    They didn’t practice once the tournament started. So. That would be one thing I would point to. Lol.
    Yes that's why they lost. They didnt practice....got it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belexus75 View Post
    Why you feel the need to assign the blame? Maybe its nobody's fault. Also if you blame coaches, what exactly did they do wrong in your opinion?

    To me its simply the fact that the world of hockey is better now than it was before. Yes Canada will still win their share in years to come but so will other countries cause they now develop as good of players as Canad does. Its going to be in Cycles now.

    Its very similar to soccer and Canada themselves. Few years back they were right at the bottom in the game that every country plays...now they are respected and can compete with middle of the pack and from time to time should be able to compete with those at the top.
    Well said here.

    Love the comparison to soccer and about how the other countries are catching up.

    Latvia played a lot of teams close.
    Kazakhstan went to overtime with Slovakia.
    The Germans only beat Kazakhstan by one in the relegation game.

    The bottom teams have closed the gap big time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belexus75 View Post
    Yes that's why they lost. They didnt practice....got it.
    So your assertion here is that the team that had no chemistry and couldn’t score wouldn’t have benefitted from being on the ice together more?…..got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belexus75 View Post
    Yes that's why they lost. They didnt practice....got it.
    haha - is this why Canada lost to the Czechs in the 1998 Olympics as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rataylor22 View Post
    Aaaaanndd now PH is taking his monthly swing at harassing and obsessing over me in PMs lol. All because he stated he is unqualified to have an opinion.
    And spamming negative rep too! Lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Belexus75 View Post
    you really need to post this here? You have problem with him take it up with him or the Mods. Keep this garbage out of here.
    I don’t have a problem with it. That doesn’t mean the unqualified keyboard warrior gets to hide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rataylor22 View Post
    So your assertion here is that the team that had no chemistry and couldn’t score wouldn’t have benefitted from being on the ice together more?…..got it.
    you cant develop chemistry in 4-5 practices...i cant even skate so obviously never played hockey but i played soccer at very high level. Sometimes takes full season to gel, sometimes more. These kids barely ever play together as each of them can play 3 of these tournaments at best and obviously most of them do not.

    If you seriously think that if they practiced during the tournament they would have won then we got nothing to discuss here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rataylor22 View Post
    And spamming negative rep too! Lol.
    You dont need PH, or anybody else, to give you negative rep....you are very good at obtaining that yourself. Like the best!
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