Oh - also.
1) The management and coaching staff’s full time job isn’t watching and analyzing these kids.
2) Doing something as a full time job =/= being good at that job. Most of them have these jobs due to nepotism and not much else!
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So again - if you are the best at picking team Canada how have you not proved that to all Canadians already.
I strongly believe that you are the ONLY person that thinks that you would pick the best Team Canada.
Now that is what is truly sad and desperate.
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Even though everything you say is likely true :
1 - We're allowed to question decisions made because :
1.1 - What you said is true about us, but is also true about them. No, they don't know either if player X or Y will have chemistry, perform under pressure, etc. Nobody has that kind of 'perfect information'.
1.2 - There's sadly management and coaching positions that aren't given on merit, but on 'who knows who' in Hockey Canada, and that's part of the problem.
These occasions should be taken to take a step back and question how and why we do organized hockey in Canada. Other countries have 'evolved' faster than us. It's time we consider that 'what we've done with success for years' could be thrown away and done differently.
But no, I don't and won't pretend I would have picked better. But at least I know they most likely haven't picked the best possible team due to various factors.
14 Teams, PTS Only, Salary, Full Keep, Start 2G 6D 3C 3LW 3RW
G- Gustafsson, Woll, Hofer
D- Burns, Forsling, Brannstrom, Peru, Liljgren, Yamula, Thrun, Lamoureux, Jiricek, Parekh
C- Barkov, Larkin, Rossi, Nazar
LW- Marchessault, Nelson, Hagel, Holtz, McGroarty
RW- Terry, Jarvis, Zucc, Brink, Berggren
18 teams, PTS Only, Top G, Top4 D, Top10 F, Full Keep with a twist
G- Shest, Ingram
D- Josi Dunn Hedman Hamilton Pionk Brannstrom Spurgeon Suter
F- Scheifele Reinhart JT Miller Hyman Marchand N Schmaltz Malkin Zucc Stephenson Benn Marchmant Hartman Krebs T Raddysh Jeannot Brink Khusnutdinov Poulin Cristall
You are exactly correct here. If you or anyone were born before 1980 or ever watched the movie Miracle you saw that Coach Herb Brooks had the team written down very quickly during the first few practices. There wasn't much thinking about it. He went with the players he thought would gel together and play as a unit. Now as we saw that took time and work in practice, but he was correct and coaches need to do the exact same thing when putting together these kids in these types of tournaments.
As for tournaments like the ones with 4 Nations there you can put together the most skilled players if you want, but these tournaments with kids it isn't going to work.
Sometimes the rest of the world catches up to you, or you get so wrapped up in your own false glory that you allow them to. Canada just didn’t have it this year. Or last year. Everyone from the top to the players failed. _ _ i t happens.
Maybe I dont want that job. Maybe just maybe I am better at putting together a cohesive unit. maybe just maybe i prefer the job i have cause it pays more.
This is a pretty bad take and to attack a forum member based on their opinion says more about you then it does about them.
WHL - World Hockey League (24 Team - Daily H2H)
Maine Moose 2021-2022
2019 WHL GM of the Year #Supersoft
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This is an interesting time to be this outspoken with this view. We all just saw firsthand how spectacularly Team Canada got everything wrong about this year's World Junior team. From selecting a coach, the players, their deployment, the style of play, and even their practice schedule. This is not the time to say that Team Canada's management is smarter than the Rataylors of the internet world. All the analysts that questioned Team Canada BEFORE the tournament were RIGHT. We now know definitively that the players Team Canada chose were not the right combination. Too much 2-way play, grit, and penalty-kill and not enough skill. And then to read the press conference comments from Team Canada basically doubling down on their choices is just mind-numbing.
10 Team, 60 Player Roster
G, A, PTS, PPP, PIM, BLKs, Hits, +/-, Shots, W, GAA, SV%, Saves
C- JHughes, Trocheck, RThomas, Zegras, Norris, Bennett, PLD, Stephenson, Danualt, Hayton
RW- Raymond, Stone, TWilson, Toffoli, KJohnson, Nyqvist, Zary
LW- Keller, Schmaltz, Bunting, Skinner, Barbashev, Duclair
D- QHughes, McAvoy, Doughty, Heiskanen, Hronek, LHughes, Mintyukov, Evans
G- Shesterkin, Lankinen, Demko, Andersen, Blackwood, Levi, Tarasov
Notable Prospects- Nikishin, Levshunov, Sennecke, Kulich, Leonard, Wood, Perreault, Lekkermaki, Ostlund, Othmman, L-Heureux, Ivanov, Murashov, Sandin-Pellika
What did you think they were going to say in the press conference, that they were all dumb asses and that they made horrible selections? It just didn't work, you learn from mistakes and move onto the next time or at least you hope they do for next year. This is year two that Canada has struggled so just maybe this group of kids aren't as good as the kids on Czechia, Sweden or the USA.
The bottom line is this group of kids who are talented lost and that could be because they were not coached properly, the team did not gel correctly, or the team itself did not measure up to the competition. They couldn't score goals which was the main issue for them when it comes down to it. Whether or not someone on the internet thinks they could have put a better roster together than the people who do this for a living is redundant. The team would still have had to face the same competition that was scoring goals with the same skilled talent and more than likely the same outcome would have happened.
14 Teams H2H Dynasty, 28 roster spots (8 bench), 15 minors under 100
Weekly Matchups - Daily Lineups
Skaters: G/A/Pt/PIM/SoG/STP/H+B/ToI/Corsi
Goalies: W/GAA/SVs/SV%/SHO
C: Eichel, Kadri, Mcdavid, Sodeberg, Schenn
LW: Ehlers, Landeskog, Meier, Debrusk, Foegele, Lee
RW: Pastrnak, Marner, Palmieri, Terry, D. Brown, Bailey, Granlund
D: Krug, Josi, Ekholm, Faulk, Muzzin, Karlsson, Cernak,
G: Hellebuyck, Biship, M Jones
10 Team, 60 Player Roster
G, A, PTS, PPP, PIM, BLKs, Hits, +/-, Shots, W, GAA, SV%, Saves
C- JHughes, Trocheck, RThomas, Zegras, Norris, Bennett, PLD, Stephenson, Danualt, Hayton
RW- Raymond, Stone, TWilson, Toffoli, KJohnson, Nyqvist, Zary
LW- Keller, Schmaltz, Bunting, Skinner, Barbashev, Duclair
D- QHughes, McAvoy, Doughty, Heiskanen, Hronek, LHughes, Mintyukov, Evans
G- Shesterkin, Lankinen, Demko, Andersen, Blackwood, Levi, Tarasov
Notable Prospects- Nikishin, Levshunov, Sennecke, Kulich, Leonard, Wood, Perreault, Lekkermaki, Ostlund, Othmman, L-Heureux, Ivanov, Murashov, Sandin-Pellika
10 Team, 60 Player Roster
G, A, PTS, PPP, PIM, BLKs, Hits, +/-, Shots, W, GAA, SV%, Saves
C- JHughes, Trocheck, RThomas, Zegras, Norris, Bennett, PLD, Stephenson, Danualt, Hayton
RW- Raymond, Stone, TWilson, Toffoli, KJohnson, Nyqvist, Zary
LW- Keller, Schmaltz, Bunting, Skinner, Barbashev, Duclair
D- QHughes, McAvoy, Doughty, Heiskanen, Hronek, LHughes, Mintyukov, Evans
G- Shesterkin, Lankinen, Demko, Andersen, Blackwood, Levi, Tarasov
Notable Prospects- Nikishin, Levshunov, Sennecke, Kulich, Leonard, Wood, Perreault, Lekkermaki, Ostlund, Othmman, L-Heureux, Ivanov, Murashov, Sandin-Pellika
12 team Fantrax Roto keeper (keep 3)
9 F, 6 D; roster 3 G max
G,A,PPP,SOG,BLKS,HITS - W,SO,SV%,Saves
F: B Tkachuk, Tippett, Tavares, Suzuki, Caufield, K Johnson, JT Miller, Laine, Marner
D: Sanderson, Broberg, Dunn, Heiskanen, Spurgeon
G: Sorokin, Daccord
IR: Dahlin
Bench: Cozens, Demidov, Slafkovsky, DeBrusk, Thompson
WHL - World Hockey League (24 Team - Daily H2H)
Maine Moose 2021-2022
2019 WHL GM of the Year #Supersoft
"Spoken like the lone gunman alphabet gang that was indeed left out from social circles for being liberal. Congrats, you made yourself famous." - Bag Skate